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KTM June 8, 2019 posted by

Different Perspectives: 2014 KTM RC8R 1190

In the world of different strokes, there are Japanese sport bikes and Italian sport bikes. And for a short while, there was a rational choice out of left field – Austria – with the KTM RC8R. With a unique blend of high-quality components and features not often found on bikes in the range, the RC8R was powerful, potent, very competent and largely ignored. Not even the impressive results of factory racer Chris Filmore in AMA Superbike competition could make the RC8R a commercial success. Ultimately KTM pulled the plug on the RC8 line – in part thanks to the CEO suggesting they should not build machines that could not be used sensibly on the street.

2014 KTM RC8R 1190 for sale on eBay

Powered by a 1190cc v-twin set at 75 degrees, the RC8R offered up a very healthy 175+ HP. With Keihin fuel injection via 52 mm throttle bodies feeding directly into the twin spark, four valve heads, power was instantaneous – if not a bit abrupt. Coupled with a 6-speed tranny and nestled in a unique trestle frame, the RC8R takes convention to a new level. Adjustments abound: the RC8R provided for a vast array of adjustments similar to what you would expect on a race bike. From levers to pegs, suspension and sub-frame height, the RC8R was an open book for a rider who knew what they wanted. Even the swing arm pivot angle is adjustable. And with WP suspension front an rear, the rider is availed to a dizzying array of potential changes that can be made in order to maximize the handling of the bike. When it comes time to stop, radial mount Brembos are up to the task. The seller is the original purchaser of this one-owner bike, and has quite a bit to share. Read on:

From the seller:
I am the original owner of this 2014 KTM RC8R 1190. I purchased the bike in March of 2014 from Thousand Oaks. The bike runs perfect and looks beautiful. I have taken excellent care of the bike keeping up on regular maintenance and always in my garage. Its always clean and waxed and has never seen rain. Never downed, raced, or abused, in like new condition and babied.

The fluids were changed last year including the oil, coolant, and brake fluids and have about a 1000 miles on them. I have only used Motorex Power Synt 4T oil in this bike per KTM’s recommendations. It has never been raced and most of the miles are highway from road trips with my buddies.

More from the seller:
I want to sell the bike with the accessories, but if somebody doesn’t want them I would let it go for less money as stock. Here are a list of the mods:

-Akrapovic EVO 4 Full Titanium Exhaust ($4600 and over 20lbs weight savings)
-K&N Air Filter
-KTM Factory EVO 4 Tune
-CJ Designs Block Off Plates
-KTM PowerParts Reservoir Covers
-KTM PowerParts Tinted Wind Screen
-KTM PowerParts Rear Seat Plugs
-KTM PowerParts Supersprox Rear Sproket
-KTM PowerParts Swingarm Protector
-KTM PowerParts Tank Pad
-Bestem Carbon Fiber Tank Guards
-Bestem Carbon Fiber Chain Guard
-Bestem Carbon Fiber Rear Fender
-Evotech Fender Eliminator
-Brand new Dunlop Q3+ Tires
-Clear Wrap on Front and Rear Tail Panels
-Fuel Tank Anti-Scratch Protector
-HID Headlamp
-DB Silencer for Akra Exhaust
-KTM RC8 Indoor Cover

More from the seller:
Factory Wise, the bike is set up very well. It has many adjustments with seat height, foot peg location and height, and handlebar height. WP suspension is stock and very good, Marschesini Wheels, Brembo Brakes, and hydraulic slipper clutch. This bike is a blast to ride, has so much torque and power I can only explain it as violent. This truly is a riders bike as there aren’t any rider aids and its all up to you. I am 6’1″ and 200lbs and this bike was comfortable for me on long road trips because of its adjustability and room to move around.

Only issue with the bike is a small burn mark I put into the lower right fairing when I installed the EVO 4 exhaust. The exhaust was missing a bracket, I was excited to ride the bike and the fairing was touching the header. But its fixed and only cosmetic. I was planning on replacing the fairing with the KTM race pan. The EVO 4 Headers also developed a crack at the intersection which was not uncommon. The crack was welded and is only cosmetic and doesn’t affect performance. I have all of the stock parts to go with the bike too.

Otherwise, bike really is 10/10 and still looks and rides perfect. Any questions please feel free to ask.

By then numbers, RC8 machines are relatively rare. Only a few hundred units were purportedly imported each model year, with the 2015 – and final – example being the rarest. But the RC8 is plagued by the worst of all collector bike syndromes; ambivalence. You see, these are great motorcycles swimming in a sea of lots of great motorcycles. The fact that the RC8 and RC8R failed to make a splash has more to do with economics and dealer reach than anything performance or quality related. No, the RC8R did not win an AMA Superbike race. Nor did one top the championship standings. But Chris Filmore was there and was close, and such speaks to the potential of this platform. As an out of the box offering from the Austrian manufacturer – their first big-bore sport bike – the RC8 was a refreshing alternative to the rest of the known crowd. And while the party ended too soon, there are plenty of good examples around. This particular RC8R looks to be well cared for, has some tasty updates, and fewer than 7,000 miles. The ask on it is a very strong $13k, but the seller indicates he is willing to entertain offers. The last few R bikes we have seen have been up in the $10k range – with exception units topping at $12k – but the dollars sunk into all of the KTM upgrades may bolster that price somewhat. It was a pity that the KTM street bike party ended too soon – it would have been fun to see what could happen at the WSBK level. Check it out here, and Good Luck!!

MI

Different Perspectives: 2014 KTM RC8R 1190
KTM April 28, 2019 posted by

Featured Listing – 2015 KTM 1190 RC8R

Perennial upstart KTM came to the superbike only in 2008, but has helped the RC8R evolve into one of the lighter weight and enjoyable liters.  RSBFS regular Seattle Used Bikes has a barely broken-in customer bike available.

The RC8R is built around KTM-developed Rotax 75-degree Vee, with 175hp derived from four valve per cylinder, two ( different ) plugs per cylinder ignition, and electronic fuel injection.  Chassis tube are big but thin, using the engine as a stressed member, with fully adjustable WP suspension front and rear.  Retro-forces supplied by Brembo, with 4-piston calipers over 320mm discs.  All-stainless exhaust is underneath and for mass centralization barely goes past the swingarm pivot.  The cockpit was made to accommodate various riders, with adjustable seat, bars, levers, and footpegs.

Despite having turned under 1,100 miles, this KTM has been serviced with all fluids twice.  Barely used and looks it.  SUB’s comments from their – web site –

This particular KTM RC8R Superbike has seen so little use it is almost a crime ! One owner bike, purchased from Skagit Powersports in 2016, had its first service performed at dealer late 2016, then again late last year all fluids were changed. Since then it has only been ridden another 40 miles.. Life changes and a move out of US dictates this one also needs to be re-homed. Absolutely no damage or scratches, runs properly and is just in to SUB in time for Spring fun!

Asking $11,999

Reviewed as possibly having been assembled by retired Swiss matchmakers, the RC8R got high marks for performance and design, never diluting the sporty formula.  2015 was to be the last year for the FIM Supersport-homologated machine, as the company shifted their focus to more streetable Moto3 400’s.  The new owner of this example will have not only a basically new RC8R, but only of the last out there.  Contact Seattle Used Bikes on (206) 535-6812 or by email – here –.

-donn

Featured Listing – 2015 KTM 1190 RC8R
KTM January 15, 2019 posted by

Double Fun – 2008-10 KTM RC8 1190’s

Today we have a double order of RC8 V-twin goodness, an orange ’08 intro-year with just 1,055 miles, and a black 2010 RC8R with just over 19K.  Banking on the year and low mileage, the ask on the ’08 is more than double the -R.  Tricky decision !

2008 KTM RC8 and 2010 KTM RC8R for sale on eBay

 

KTM developed their superbike for the 2008 model year and it’s become a noteworthy alternative to some other V or L-twins.  Initially the Rotax-based engine was 1148cc’s and good for 152 hp, and the later -R’s 1195cc’s checked in with 168 hp – serious stuff  ! – and the -R rates a factory slipper clutch.  The 6-speed transmission reviewed relatively clunky, but honing a smooth trans takes millions of units.  Both years have WP forks and monoshock, fully adjustable of course.  320mm Brembo monoblocks are overkill on the street, but a literal life saver on the track.  Like their 1198S inspiration, the KTM have a beautiful chro-moly trellis frame, in orange on the 2010.  The angular fairing design and clean rear fender design have become a KTM hallmark.

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Seems like both these sellers stuck to the extremes, with the 2010 RC8R asking somewhat below the going rate, and the 2008 RC8’s buy-it-now is similarly above the peak.  Both appear undamaged, but the 2008 is a 1K-mile cherry, and the 2010 having logged 19,109.  The 2008’s owner believes it is the 5th machine from that year’s production, and the 2010 comes with following statement, ” AFTERMARKET EXHAUST, ADJUSTABLE LEVERS, FENDER ELIMINATOR, LED FRONT SIGNALS, MARCHESINI WHEELS, CARBON FIBER FENDER, COOL BIKE! “.

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KTM abandoned the superbike market in 2015 saying the machines didn’t fit their corporate responsibility ( but somehow the 1290 Duke does ).  Now their sole supersport is a 390 cc single and the LC8 is a poignant moment in the 21st century.  The big twin is a durable 4-cam beast, if not destined for WSBK fame then a champ on the road.  The rest of the package is nothing if not a phenomenal first effort, a nice testament to computer-aided design and manufacturing.  Just try and pick one !

-donn

Double Fun – 2008-10 KTM RC8 1190’s
Buell September 5, 2018 posted by

Buell, Interrupted – 2013 EBR 1190RS Carbon Edition

Erik Buell regrouped after Harley retired the brand and began as he had before, with a racebike design followed by a flagship superbike, followed by a more affordable machine.  The 1190RS was their big money racer-with-lights, with direct lineage from the -RR.  Though 2012 was the introductory year, a few were made for 2013 as the company transitioned to the -RX.

2013 EBR 1190RS Carbon Edition

Buell had peeked over the engine horizon in 2007 with the 1125cc Rotax-based engine, and the 1190 was a descendant, a 72-degree V-twin with four chain/gear-driven cams.  Channeling 175hp through two small contact patches requires electronic intervention, with 21-setting traction control and a vacuum-actuated slipper clutch.  Classic Buell concepts such as fuel-in-frame, ZTL front brake, mass-centralized muffler, and oil in the swingarm are all present.  Öhlins turned to their racing department for the 43mm cartridge forks, and twin-tube rear monoshock.  The bodywork for the carbon edition is hand-laid and gorgeous, and helps the 1190RS stay under the 400 lbs. mark.

Evidently kept in its shipping crate until a year ago, this -RS looks new and hasn’t reached the break-in oil change yet.  The orangey-red accents look great with the carbon and it’s gonna wake the neighbors without the twin secondary mufflers some 1190’s came with.  Seems like there’d be a back story for a crate unopened for four years, but here’s what the owner would divulge in the eBay auction:

No. 7 of 35 2013’s. New MSRP, set-up like this was just over $50,000. Original owner. Factory race exhaust (Euro) with 93 octane race ECU; extra carbon rear fender; lots of Ti and a Lithium Battery Tender. 500 miles +/-. Gentle street break-in miles only. Not quite fully broken-in. I am a retired championship winning racer/mechanic and treat my bikes with respect. Comes with all original parts as well as an uninstalled full Bazzaz system with the quick-shifter and remote. Comes with all the original parts. 

I uncrated it last fall. It has never been in the rain. It has always been garaged or in my living room (all last winter).  The engine is hand-built and full of exotic parts. This is literally a race-bike – with lights and mirrors. It has the most immediate power delivery of any street bike that I’ve owned (of well over 100).  Original MSRP for replacement engine is $27,000+. The suspension is from Ohlins’ race catalog – not the normal street and track line which is less exotic. Excellent condition. One tiny stone chip in the clear coat. 

I will include a 1/2 case of the required AMSOIL full synthetic racing oil and filter for the break-in service. Also all of the stuff that came with it including EBR tie-downs and the EBR crate tarp.

EBR’s new machines enticed some enterprise-level investors, but even 999 looks and Panigale performance couldn’t hold back the red ink for more than a couple of years.  Though it’s a very together machine, and any savvy Aprilia wrench could make repairs, lack of support is factored in to the sensible BIN and low-ball bids.  Probably better for a shop owner or their very good customer than a one bike garage.  While we wait for Erik Buell’s next chapter to unfold, this -RS is a pleasant daydream…

-donn

Buell, Interrupted – 2013 EBR 1190RS Carbon Edition
KTM June 26, 2018 posted by

Orange Crush: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

First of all, a big shout out to all of the RareSportbikesforSale fans I met at Laguna Seca over the weekend while working with the guys at the Iconic Motorbikes booth! Was really great to meet you and hear your stories. Also, I apologize profusely for any financial difficulties or domestic drama our little blog may have caused…

The KTM RC8R was introduced in 2008, making the design ten years old now, but honestly, it’s unlikely that anyone unfamiliar with the bike would ever realize it’s been around that long. Pretty much every available color combination was : from the planar stealth-fighter look of the all-black version to the origami white-and-black design, they all make the bike look like a pre-production concept or a design student’s digital rendering.

My favorite though is the orange-and-white scheme seen here. I have no idea what anyone else calls it, but I refer to this color combination as “Creamsicle.” Apparently, KTM owners recognize the cartoonish quality because I’ve seen a SoCal RC8R in these colors with a large “ORANGE CRUSH” bottlecap sticker on the fairing… But the upside to KTM’s concept-bike styling made flesh is that it still looks fresh nearly a decade on.

Under the brash looks was surprising practicality: ergonomics were highly adjustable, and the bike was designed for ease of maintenance. The 75° v-twin originally displaced 1148cc although it was later increased to 1195cc for the 2010 model, with an output of 175hp and a stump-pulling 90 ft-lbs of torque, right on par with other twins of the period. Of course the liquid-cooled lump featured four-valves and chain-driven cams, along with twin spark plugs per cylinder. Unfortunately, the early models were plagued by a clunky gearbox and high prices, although the second-generation bikes with the larger engine were much improved.

From the original eBay listing: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

Excellent condition, garage kept 2,200 miles. Tons of tasteful upgrades. Around 2,200 miles and may go up a little as I still ride her some.
Clear title in hand. Only 1 of 250 imported from 2012 and 2011 in US.
Tons of extras as you can see including matte carbon fiber front and rear fenders.
Next service not due for over 3k miles.
Never wrecked, never down, no scratches and no surprises.
My favorite sport bike on the planet, fully-adjustable for all size riders, and that twin!
Why am I selling? Scaling back and slowing down. At least for now…

The listed price for this RC8R is $10,400 which seems very reasonable, considering what sellers are typically asking, the very low miles, extras, and general condition. It obviously doesn’t have the top end power of a Panigale, but that’s not necessarily a problem, considering the fact that the Pani already seems to be a bit of a handful. And a lack of electronic aids might also appeal to experienced riders who want a relatively analog experience in an increasingly digital landscape. The distinctive looks are aging particularly well, I’m just never sure that, as much as I love this particular color combination, I’d have the nerve to actually ride one: subtle, it is not. Especially with the accessory Akrapovic exhaust I’d want fitted…

-tad

Orange Crush: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale
KTM November 14, 2017 posted by

Origami Superbike: 2010 KTM RC8R 1190 for Sale

Origami, if you’re not familiar, is the Japanese art of paper folding, and the resulting creations look like angular, abstract animals. KTM’s RC8R takes folded paper style to extremes, with elemental shapes and broad, flat panels that would look more at home on a concept bike than a production machine, like an origami Ducati 916. There are no random graphics, fake vents or weirdly-sculpted surfaces. It looks almost like a papercraft model, a cartoon rendition of a superbike, especially in the plain white seen here on today’s RC8, with only the black tailpiece and belly-pan to break up the factory-fresh racebike look.

The RC8 was a surprisingly thoughtful machine, considering its brash looks and high-performance. The bike features highly adjustable ergonomics, and appears to have been designed for taller riders, instead of 5’8”, 140lb moto jockeys. The 75° v-twin displaced 1148cc and featured four-valves and chain-driven cams, along with twin spark plugs per cylinder, although it was later bumped to 1195cc for the 2010 model, for an output of 175hp and an arm-stretching 90 ft-lbs of torque.

I really love KTM’s brash approach to styling: their bikes are love-it-or-hate-it affairs, with bright colors and futuristic designs that seem to age well. From an aesthetic point of view, my favorite RC8 scheme is the orange-and-white but, when you see them in person, they’re almost too much, too in-your-face. So for myself, I think I might prefer a bike with this, much more elegant style. KTM RC8s don’t come up for sale too often, at least not without outrageous price tags approaching their MSRP. You want what for a seven year old motorcycle that was a tough sell, even when new? Fortunately, today’s isn’t in perfect showroom condition, but miles are still low and the price is much more reasonable.

 

From the original eBay listing: 2010 KTM RC8R for Sale

Clean title in hand
Low mileage (7,100 miles)
Full Akrapovic Exhaust with Secondary Air System Delete (tuned accordingly)
R&G Tidy Tail fender eliminator
LED headlight bulbs
Tech Spec tank grippers
Brand new Q3 tires front and rear
Shorai Lithium battery

Very Minor scuffing of front left fairing
Yellowing found on tank from old tank protector adhesive
Typical burning of headlight housing from halogen bulbs (replaced to led, heat is no longer an issue)
All services up to date. 

The Buy It Now price for this example is just $8,999 which is very appealing, considering the solid condition, relatively low miles, and the inclusion of the desirable Akrapovič exhaust. When bikes are new, accessories are often available from companies at the higher end of the retail spectrum. But ten years on, you might end up fitting your exotic sportbike with a TwoBros pipe if it doesn’t already have something like this.

-tad

Origami Superbike: 2010 KTM RC8R 1190 for Sale
KTM May 9, 2016 posted by

An Austrian Interpretation – 2008 KTM RC8

Founded in 1934 under the name Kraftfahrzeug Trunkenpolz Mattighofen, KTM has grown like the proverbial tree, branching out from bicycles to two-strokes, enduros to supersports, and lately into sportscars.  Their exciting entrance into the superbike arena was well-received and has become a standard-bearer for the company.

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2008 KTM RC8 for sale on eBay

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Based on their LC8 V-twin, KTM developed the 1148cc in only 30 months, the results roar for themselves with 152 hp and 89 ft-lbs. torque. Underneath the stealth fighter styling it uses a chrome-moly steel trellis frame, with fully adjustable WP forks and monoshock.  Superbike-spec Brembo brakes have 320mm front rotors with 240mm rear.  Low polar moment exhaust ends under the footpegs.

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The RC8 presented here has just break-in miles and appears for all intents new.  Evidently owned by a fan, it has been preserved, maybe with an eye toward collectability.  From the eBay auction:

KTM’s RC8 Super-bike represents KTM’s first mass-produced production super bike. This particular KTM is #5 of only 50 produced in their first year; it also only has 1052 miles!! The KTM RC8 was fully designed with the racetrack in mind and is intended to compete directly against Ducati’s 1098/1198 Superbikes as well as the Big Four Japanese liter class motorcycles.

20160508 2008 ktm rc8 left rear

Introduced in spring 2008 as a 2008-1/2 model, the RC8 wasn’t without problems, there was a recall to adjust the transmission and a few quality control issues, but as a first superbike KTM hit it out of the park.  Smashing design and execution, pricing in between Italy and Japan, and most ergonomics are adjustable for the individual rider.  Never resting on their laurels, KTM improved the powerplant for 2010, and introduced a more dedicated track machine in the RC8R.  But the distinction of a first-year model and fine condition are a draw.  Listed by a Texas dealer, the auction has several days to run, dozens of bids, and hasn’t hit the reserve.  Looking forward to watching this one…

-donn

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An Austrian Interpretation – 2008 KTM RC8
KTM December 27, 2015 posted by

Right Off the Bat – 2008 KTM RC8 Limited Edition

KTM’s first superbike was introduced on the 2005 show circuit using the 999cc Duke engine.  When production began in late 2007 the 1148cc LC8 was ready and though it was updated the next year, the bike was a success and the factory has campaigned it in AMA and World Superbikes.

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2008 KTM RC8 Limited Edition for sale on eBay

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KTM developed the 4-valve 75-degree V-twin in record time, and it provides 152 hp and 88 ft-lbs. torque.  The engine is almost 10 kg. lighter than comparable powerplants, which helps the WP ( a KTM subsidiary ) upside-down forks and monoshock do their job better.  Brembo radially mounted calipers hug 320mm front disks and 240mm rear.  The styling separates the RC8 fans from those who make parenthood jokes about the angularity and color schemes.

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Number 42 of a Special 2008.5 Edition of 50 ( Red Bull and Akropovich editions didn’t come out until 2010 ),  this monochromatic treatment has a lot of carbon as well as exhaust and chip.  A surprising combination of 2250 miles and new tires, also a new lithium-iron battery, it’s a beauty to behold.  From the eBay auction:

This is the rare 2008.5 model in stellar condition, #42 of 50 imported into the US. Numbered Plate (metal) included.  

Brand new Michelin Power Sport 3 tires.

It has the Power Commander on the bike, with a custom map from England tuned to the QD Exhaust, a big investment. The bike runs flawlessly with stellar throttle response and power..

All the Akropovic flat carbon bits are perfect as well. The entire tail piece, front and rear fenders, clutch guard are all Akropovic matt carbon. The original tail section is included, immaculate also.

It has orange anodized KTM billet covers installed for clutch, and both brake reservoirs. Then, CRG levers; orange silicone coolant hoses, as well as front and rear axle sliders. Includes R&G tail tidy, and KTM genuine accessory bag, it is made for the RC8 by KTM and plugs into the two holes you see in the tailpiece, which are controlled by the seat latch. Lastly, gorgeous R&G rearsets from England.

The carbon tank shield is from Australia.  I replaced the seat with a carbon fiber pattern-imprinted leather beauty from Corbin. Perfect fit and nicely parallel orange stitching. Original included with sale.

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The flat white, black frame and carbon look cool, with signature KTM orange playing peek-a-boo.  Outstanding digital dash and centralized-mass exhaust is better resolved than many.  Real-world ergonomics have slightly larger seat and higher bars than you might initally expect, but very adjustable, and the bike tested quick and comfortable.  Performance was substantially equal to a Ducati 1098S, their inspiration and competitor.

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Nicely accessorized by the owner with tankbag and cover, there’re also no cam belt worries on a KTM, using a gear and chain system.  This Austrian upstart looks ready to go for some post break-in miles !

Right Off the Bat – 2008 KTM RC8 Limited Edition