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KTM February 7, 2019 posted by

Teacup: 2016 KTM RC390 Cup Bike

Right here we have an interesting dilemma. Race bikes are definitely cool, but used machines really need to have some star power and proven history to have value. Track day bikes - also known as hacked street bikes - are relatively cheap but usually thrashed pretty hard. Brand new race-spec bikes are rare, and nearly always very, very expensive. But what if you could find a new and competitive race bike built for a current race series - but reliable and valid for use on practically any track day you might have in mind? And what if it was reasonably priced? Enter today's cool 2016 KTM RC390 Cup Bike, advertised as NEW.

2016 KTM RC390 Cup Bike for sale on eBay

The little KTM shares a lot of DNA with its bigger brother, the RC8. Sure, it's a smaller displacement bike - often mistakenly identified as "entry level" here in the US - but that does not mean that technology has passed it by. With a short, straight tube frame chassis in trademark orange, the RC390 features WP suspension including upside down forks. Motivation is provided by a liquid cooled, single cylinder four stroke with double overhead cams and four valves per cylinder. Figure approximately 44 HP nearing the neighborhood of 10,000 RPM (although the sealed race bikes may have slightly less), and more torque down lower on the rev range than any of the small bike twins. A slipper clutch is standard, as is the Brembo designed brakes and fly by wire throttle with fuel injection - certainly not entry level equipment. Dry weight for the standard machine is just about 300 lbs even.

From the seller:
2016 KTM RC 390 Cup Bike. Bike has never been titled and sells as a new bike.

Was $10,000 $ave over $4,000! The KTM RC Cup racebike, it is a track-only (NOT STREET-LEGAL) version of the RC 390. The race-prepared motorcycle is sold ready for competition, with over 40 KTM PowerParts and other improvements to enhance its racing performance. The engine of the bike comes sealed for use in the MotoAmerica series and it gets a performance exhaust by Akrapovic The racebike features fully adjustable WP inverted forks fork and WP racing monoshock with high-/low-speed compression and rebound damping, adjustable preload and adjustable shock length. It also gets a taller windshield with race style tail fairing and belly pan. Throttle response is a very important factor in racing, so the KTM RC Cup racebike receives RC8 R-like throttle assembly. Moreover, there are also CNC-machined race-spec rearsets and foldable levers on the bike, along with many other PowerParts, including front and rear trackstands.

The RC390 Cup machine is likely one of only a handful of turn key racers you could buy new in the past decade, fully set up out of the crate (the Moriwaki 250 and Aprilia 250 Cup are the others). Yes, it fits smaller riders better. Yes, to be fully qualified for MotoAmerica you need to be younger than 22. But adults can hoon on this all day long during track days, thanks to the proven reliability of these tough and quick thumpers. And isn't that what you want in a track day bike? A ready supply of spares, minimal parts that can be damaged in a crash, and reliability to ensure that you maximize your track time - all in an affordable package that is light weight and easy to handle. For those less selfish, you may even have an aspiring young racer in the house that is looking for a sponsored ride. Either way, the price of entry is a mere $5,995 Buy It Now - super cheap for a racer! Check it out here. I know it does not have three trillion horsepower, but this can carve a line far better than any GX Busja mega displacement streetbike. If a MotoGP bike is out of your price range, this MotoAmerica eligible racer might be a better fit. The only problem you will have is trying to wipe the smile off of your face. Good Luck!!

MI

Teacup:  2016 KTM RC390 Cup Bike
KTM January 15, 2019 posted by

Double Fun – 2008-10 KTM RC8 1190’s

Today we have a double order of RC8 V-twin goodness, an orange '08 intro-year with just 1,055 miles, and a black 2010 RC8R with just over 19K.  Banking on the year and low mileage, the ask on the '08 is more than double the -R.  Tricky decision !

2008 KTM RC8 and 2010 KTM RC8R for sale on eBay

 

KTM developed their superbike for the 2008 model year and it's become a noteworthy alternative to some other V or L-twins.  Initially the Rotax-based engine was 1148cc's and good for 152 hp, and the later -R's 1195cc's checked in with 168 hp - serious stuff  ! - and the -R rates a factory slipper clutch.  The 6-speed transmission reviewed relatively clunky, but honing a smooth trans takes millions of units.  Both years have WP forks and monoshock, fully adjustable of course.  320mm Brembo monoblocks are overkill on the street, but a literal life saver on the track.  Like their 1198S inspiration, the KTM have a beautiful chro-moly trellis frame, in orange on the 2010.  The angular fairing design and clean rear fender design have become a KTM hallmark.

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Seems like both these sellers stuck to the extremes, with the 2010 RC8R asking somewhat below the going rate, and the 2008 RC8's buy-it-now is similarly above the peak.  Both appear undamaged, but the 2008 is a 1K-mile cherry, and the 2010 having logged 19,109.  The 2008's owner believes it is the 5th machine from that year's production, and the 2010 comes with following statement, " AFTERMARKET EXHAUST, ADJUSTABLE LEVERS, FENDER ELIMINATOR, LED FRONT SIGNALS, MARCHESINI WHEELS, CARBON FIBER FENDER, COOL BIKE! ".

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KTM abandoned the superbike market in 2015 saying the machines didn't fit their corporate responsibility ( but somehow the 1290 Duke does ).  Now their sole supersport is a 390 cc single and the LC8 is a poignant moment in the 21st century.  The big twin is a durable 4-cam beast, if not destined for WSBK fame then a champ on the road.  The rest of the package is nothing if not a phenomenal first effort, a nice testament to computer-aided design and manufacturing.  Just try and pick one !

-donn

Double Fun – 2008-10 KTM RC8 1190’s
KTM October 14, 2018 posted by

Just in Time for Halloween: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

In spite of very positive reviews, the RC8R, KTM's Origami Superbike, never sold well. Some feel it was that the original iteration wasn't quite ready for prime time, with a power deficit and a crunchy gearbox, along with some pretty basic electronics, compared to Ducati's 1198. The bike's high price tag probably didn't help things either. The second generation seen here addressed the first two issues, but the bike was always an analog holdout in an increasingly digital class.

Maybe it was that the people that buy superbike riders are a snobby bunch and didn't want to take a chance on an expensive new machine built by a dirt bike manufacturer. Or maybe they just aren't fans of orange. You'd think they'd have gotten the message that the bike would perform, since KTM's earlier 990 SuperDuke and Supermoto had gotten pretty good reviews. The heart of the beast was an updated version of those bikes' liquid-cooled 75° v-twin that originally displaced 1148cc in the RC8, although it was later increased to 1195cc for the 2010 RC8R model, with an output of 175hp and a pretty massive 90 ft-lbs of torque.

It didn't compete against the class leaders when you compared spec sheets, but the KTM was never really about the pure numbers or technology simply for the sake of it. It was designed to actually function as a motorcycle, and the bike's adjustable ergonomics were intended to work for a wide range of riders and riding styles, from dedicated track day junkies to casual weekend sportbikers. These were difficult to shift when new, but have managed to hang on to their values on the used market pretty well. Those few folks that bought them seem to love them and I think people realized quickly that the RC8R would eventually be considered a classic.

From the original eBay listing: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

11,949 Miles
250 models were made for North America for 2011 and 2012 years
Clean VIN/Title
Adult Owned and Maintained (unmolested by dumbasses)
All Receipts
Not Raced
Major Service at 10,836 ($1,840.34) KTM Motor Cafe
Frame Sliders
Axle Sliders
New Tires
Oil Changed
Coolant Changed and Orange Samco hoses added
New Brake Fluid
New Battery w/ Tender Dongle
New Pads Front/Rear
New Rear Rotor
Fork Seals
Billet Aluminum Orange KTM goodies
Rear Orange Carbon Fender
Smoked Front Fairing
Rottweiler Stage 3 SAS Removal System
Luimoto Seat Gel Insert
Luimoto Seat Cover
300 Page Owners/Service Manual

KBB @ $10,975.00
KBB Average Expected Miles @ 20,030

$11,000 Cash In My Hand or NO Test Rides.... NO BS

There's Something About That Listing That Bothers Me, But I Can't Quite Put My Finger On It... We surely all feel the pain of tire-kickers and looky-loos, and you'd better believe I agree with the seller's last line, but I'm pretty sure people that do that stuff won't be deterred by anyone putting "no BS" in their listing. Sort of like putting "no players or married guys" in your online dating profile... And the list of service and parts is nice but that "new rear rotor".... sorry: "New Rear Rotor" makes me a little nervous. How the hell did that happen? Anyway, at $11,000 this isn't the cheapest or the lowest-mileage RC8R I've seen for sale recently, but it's a clean example and those striking colors fit my Halloween theme.

-tad

Just in Time for Halloween: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale
KTM June 26, 2018 posted by

Orange Crush: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

First of all, a big shout out to all of the RareSportbikesforSale fans I met at Laguna Seca over the weekend while working with the guys at the Iconic Motorbikes booth! Was really great to meet you and hear your stories. Also, I apologize profusely for any financial difficulties or domestic drama our little blog may have caused...

The KTM RC8R was introduced in 2008, making the design ten years old now, but honestly, it's unlikely that anyone unfamiliar with the bike would ever realize it's been around that long. Pretty much every available color combination was : from the planar stealth-fighter look of the all-black version to the origami white-and-black design, they all make the bike look like a pre-production concept or a design student's digital rendering.

My favorite though is the orange-and-white scheme seen here. I have no idea what anyone else calls it, but I refer to this color combination as "Creamsicle." Apparently, KTM owners recognize the cartoonish quality because I've seen a SoCal RC8R in these colors with a large "ORANGE CRUSH" bottlecap sticker on the fairing... But the upside to KTM's concept-bike styling made flesh is that it still looks fresh nearly a decade on.

Under the brash looks was surprising practicality: ergonomics were highly adjustable, and the bike was designed for ease of maintenance. The 75° v-twin originally displaced 1148cc although it was later increased to 1195cc for the 2010 model, with an output of 175hp and a stump-pulling 90 ft-lbs of torque, right on par with other twins of the period. Of course the liquid-cooled lump featured four-valves and chain-driven cams, along with twin spark plugs per cylinder. Unfortunately, the early models were plagued by a clunky gearbox and high prices, although the second-generation bikes with the larger engine were much improved.

From the original eBay listing: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

Excellent condition, garage kept 2,200 miles. Tons of tasteful upgrades. Around 2,200 miles and may go up a little as I still ride her some.
Clear title in hand. Only 1 of 250 imported from 2012 and 2011 in US.
Tons of extras as you can see including matte carbon fiber front and rear fenders.
Next service not due for over 3k miles.
Never wrecked, never down, no scratches and no surprises.
My favorite sport bike on the planet, fully-adjustable for all size riders, and that twin!
Why am I selling? Scaling back and slowing down. At least for now…

The listed price for this RC8R is $10,400 which seems very reasonable, considering what sellers are typically asking, the very low miles, extras, and general condition. It obviously doesn't have the top end power of a Panigale, but that's not necessarily a problem, considering the fact that the Pani already seems to be a bit of a handful. And a lack of electronic aids might also appeal to experienced riders who want a relatively analog experience in an increasingly digital landscape. The distinctive looks are aging particularly well, I'm just never sure that, as much as I love this particular color combination, I'd have the nerve to actually ride one: subtle, it is not. Especially with the accessory Akrapovic exhaust I'd want fitted...

-tad

Orange Crush: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale
KTM December 24, 2017 posted by

The year that was: 2011 KTM RC8R

For a too-brief period of time, KTM offered a raucous 1195cc 75 degree V-twin encased in a stout trellis frame and enveloped in bodywork that could only be inspired by origami sculpture. And while the RC8 turned heads on the street, it took the upscale model "R" model to make a real impact in the racing community. Alas KTM had bigger fish to fry than AMA and FIM Superbike series (heading to MotoGP, Moto2 & Moto3), discontinuing the RC8 lineup a few short years later. KTM CEO and President Stefan Piere actually stated to the press that KTM would no longer produce a street-going superbike as he did not believe it was morally responsible for the company to create something that could not be utilized safely on the street. Thankfully examples like this 2011 RC8R are still available on the used market.

2011 KTM RC8R for sale on eBay

The introduction of the "R" coincided with a bump in displacement from 1,148 to 1195cc across the entire RC8 lineup. But the R offered much more than just a bigger bang. Relatively unique to KTM, the RC8R provided for a vast array of adjustments similar to what you would expect on a race bike. From levers to pegs, suspension and sub-frame height, the RC8R was an open book for a rider who knew what they wanted. And when set up correctly, the RC8R could be as potent as any of its peers, as proven by Chris Filmore in AMA Superbike competition.

From the seller:
2011 KTM RC8R
3,372 miles
Mint condition
License plate fender eliminator kit
Original license plate bracket in perfect shape
New tires, plus an extra set of tires

This example looks pretty impressive. With only 3,372 miles on the digital clocks, today's example has not traveled very far down the highway. The fender elimination kit gives the bike an extremely clean tail. And while mods are nearly always frowned upon, the inclusion of the original pieces in the sale mean this bike can be returned to stock shape if desired. Until then, I would revel in the sharp looks of this beast and ride the heck out of it.

The seller is asking $10,900 in a Buy It Now auction format. That is pretty much in the ballpark for one of these models in this condition, if not a little on the upper side of the range. Thankfully the seller is open to offers, so there may be some Christmas spirit left in this relatively rare Austrian beauty. Check it out here and make the man an offer - KTM won't be building them like this any longer. Good Luck!!

MI

KTM November 14, 2017 posted by

Origami Superbike: 2010 KTM RC8R 1190 for Sale

Origami, if you’re not familiar, is the Japanese art of paper folding, and the resulting creations look like angular, abstract animals. KTM’s RC8R takes folded paper style to extremes, with elemental shapes and broad, flat panels that would look more at home on a concept bike than a production machine, like an origami Ducati 916. There are no random graphics, fake vents or weirdly-sculpted surfaces. It looks almost like a papercraft model, a cartoon rendition of a superbike, especially in the plain white seen here on today’s RC8, with only the black tailpiece and belly-pan to break up the factory-fresh racebike look.

The RC8 was a surprisingly thoughtful machine, considering its brash looks and high-performance. The bike features highly adjustable ergonomics, and appears to have been designed for taller riders, instead of 5’8”, 140lb moto jockeys. The 75° v-twin displaced 1148cc and featured four-valves and chain-driven cams, along with twin spark plugs per cylinder, although it was later bumped to 1195cc for the 2010 model, for an output of 175hp and an arm-stretching 90 ft-lbs of torque.

I really love KTM’s brash approach to styling: their bikes are love-it-or-hate-it affairs, with bright colors and futuristic designs that seem to age well. From an aesthetic point of view, my favorite RC8 scheme is the orange-and-white but, when you see them in person, they’re almost too much, too in-your-face. So for myself, I think I might prefer a bike with this, much more elegant style. KTM RC8s don't come up for sale too often, at least not without outrageous price tags approaching their MSRP. You want what for a seven year old motorcycle that was a tough sell, even when new? Fortunately, today's isn't in perfect showroom condition, but miles are still low and the price is much more reasonable.

 

From the original eBay listing: 2010 KTM RC8R for Sale

Clean title in hand
Low mileage (7,100 miles)
Full Akrapovic Exhaust with Secondary Air System Delete (tuned accordingly)
R&G Tidy Tail fender eliminator
LED headlight bulbs
Tech Spec tank grippers
Brand new Q3 tires front and rear
Shorai Lithium battery

Very Minor scuffing of front left fairing
Yellowing found on tank from old tank protector adhesive
Typical burning of headlight housing from halogen bulbs (replaced to led, heat is no longer an issue)
All services up to date. 

The Buy It Now price for this example is just $8,999 which is very appealing, considering the solid condition, relatively low miles, and the inclusion of the desirable Akrapovič exhaust. When bikes are new, accessories are often available from companies at the higher end of the retail spectrum. But ten years on, you might end up fitting your exotic sportbike with a TwoBros pipe if it doesn't already have something like this.

-tad

Origami Superbike: 2010 KTM RC8R 1190 for Sale