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Ducati February 4, 2020 posted by

Featured Listing: 1959 Ducati Elite 200 for Sale

This Featured Listing is part of the The Edinger Ducati Collection. Thank you for supporting the site, David! -dc

If you’ve already got Ducati fatigue from the past couple weeks, scroll right on past today’s Featured Listing, this Ducati Elite 200. Or, if you didn’t realize that Ducati had a life before their big, booming superbike line existed, go ahead and read on. In fact, they didn’t even make a regular production multi until the introduction of the v-twin 750 in the early 1970s: their Cucciolo, the original Ducati, was actually a small, four-stroke engine designed to motorize a bicycle. Humble beginnings for a company whose name is synonymous with Italian exotica today.

Later machines used their light weight and handling to win victories in smaller racing classes. Fabio Taglioni designed their first overhead-cam engine, which eventually developed into the machine seen here that was introduced in 1958. The Elite displaced 204cc and used a four-speed gearbox with the heel-toe shifter that was characteristic of the era. The 18 horses and light weight meant a top speed of nearly 90mph, an impressive velocity for such a small motorcycle.

The distinctive candy-red “jelly mould” tank with mirror-like chrome details and Ducati wing logo, complete with mounting loops, to the copper-colored frame and amazing details like the “DUCATI” molded into the peg rubbers, headlight bucket-mounted speedometer, and tapered shotgun exhaust, it’s a surprise to me that they haven’t built a retro-styled model that references this bike yet. Even a Scrambler variant painted to match this might work, combining modern performance with classic style and colors…

From the Seller: 1959 Ducati Elite 200 for Sale

This is a rare, award winning piece of Motorcycle art. This bike was previously in a museum and is also an Antique Automobile Club of America winner “National First Prize”. The bike was purchased from Vicki Smith in 2013 who is well know among Ducatista. Apparently the bike was first purchased in Italy. I probably never rode the bike more than 20 miles and it was then properly put back into Museum mode by Revival Cycles in Austin and has complimented the other bikes in my house. I have all the receipts that came with the bikes and everyone since. The key in the headlight is one of my favorite things and the bike also comes with a Ducati tire pump. The one into two exhaust is rare and motorcycle art. This is the price I paid in 2013 and is more valuable and rare today.

Contact: David Edinger (Edinger.david@gmail.com) +1-317-908-2573

The seller is asking $20,000 for this very nice example of an appreciating classic. The bike isn’t perfect, but the paint looks amazing, it has great patina, and it comes with documentation and should certainly continue to appreciate. It’s a shame that most of these end up sitting in collections, since they’re apparently great to ride and would be lots of fun on a casual Sunday morning ride, or a great choice for a classic rally like the Motogiro.

-tad

Featured Listing: 1959 Ducati Elite 200 for Sale
Ducati September 13, 2019 posted by

A New Era: 1981 Ducati Pantah 500SL for Sale

The Ducati Pantah 500SL was a watershed moment for the company, a bike that seems a little underwhelming at first, but actually launched them into the modern era, with practical updates to the classic v-twin engine and striking looks that are hard to date, if you’re not familiar with the bike. Compared to most Japanese sportbikes of the time, the styling is decidedly wild, and the silver/red/blue graphics would look great on a modern bike like the Panigale.

Ducati’s old bevel-drive v-twins were designed to perform and gorgeously hand-crafted, but were hideously expensive to manufacture, assemble, and service. Not exactly a design suited to a company wanting to increase their production significantly. The Pantah took the original two-valve, air/oil-cooled design and updated it with toothed rubber belts to drive the single overhead cams, something that was increasingly common in the automotive world at the time, but largely unheard of in motorcycle manufacture.

The Pantah was introduced in 1980 as the 500SL, but quickly grew to 583cc for the 600SL in 1981. Power produced by the 499cc twin was a modest 50hp, but engine loved to rev and the Ducati was light compared to rivals at under 400lbs dry. This switch to the cheaper construction actually brought Ducati’s Desmodromic valve actuation to the masses, since the older bevel-drive bikes mostly used traditional valve springs, and it was only the Super Sport models that featured the race-bred technology.

From the original eBay listing: 1981 Ducati Pantah 500SL for Sale

It has come time to sell the last of my collection and this one is it. I’ve owned this bike since about 1996 or 1997 and have meticouluslly restored the bike with all original parts or the best parts available. I use the word restored a bit lightly here. The only 2 parts that have not been restored due to there great condition is the main frame(original paint) and front forks(original paint). Everything else has been repainted, refinished, restored, etc..

First 2 pictures are from a amateur photo shoot with bike from about 2 years ago.. The rest are from last week.

I’m offering this auction at very low starting price with NO RESERVE and hope it goes to the best home possible. Title is clear.

  • New paint and decals.
  • New windscreen
  • Wheels have been power coated and restored with all new bearing etc..
  • Electrical system gone through and restored
  • Rear fender delete modification with round light. (original light included)
  • New Conti replica short style exhaust(have extra set of silencers and will include)
  • Rebuilt front and rear shocks
  • Rebuilt and painted front and rear calipers
  • New Tires
  • Gauges restored
  • Polished engine cases and linkage polished
  • New Battery
  • All new original grips and levers and boots and cables
  • New seat bottom leather and original seat back leather
  • Headlight restored

I know I’m leaving out a bunch of things but its just to much to list!

Motor has been completely disassembled and gone through adding all new gaskets and adjustments. All work on bike has been performed by Moto Borgotaro in Brooklyn New York and Moto Pistole (now North Motorcycle). Everything except the blue paint and decals were performed by them. You can check out there websites for there caliber of work. 

Anything and everything you can think of has been redone on bike. Please ask any questions.

I will include in sale many extra parts and original owners manual and service manual. Vintage magazine with Bike of the Year from 1981.

Here is a link of the start up and walk around. Also you can see my other vintage Ducatis that I sold in the last few years…

I reserve the right to end this auction early due to its for sale locally as well.

Shipping is the responsibility of winning bidder. I can assist within reason.. 

This one is about as nice as you’re ever likely to find, and values of these 1980s bikes are definitely increasing after years, but although this is a No Reserve auction, the starting bid of $11,498 is both oddly specific and very high for a Pantah..

-tad

A New Era: 1981 Ducati Pantah 500SL for Sale
Ducati March 6, 2019 posted by

Tripping the Light Pantahstic: 1982 Ducati Pantah 600SL for Sale

Ducati’s original “round-case” v-twin may be one of the most beautiful engines of all time but, while tower shafts and bevel gears may be a very precise way to operate valves, they sure aren’t an economical one. Think about the shimming that must be done during assembly; it’s a very labor-intensive way to construct an engine, not at all suited for mass-production. The Ducati Pantah that followed showed the way forward, and is the grandfather of all modern Ducatis. Introduced in 1980 in 499cc form as the 500SL, it grew to 593cc in 1981 as the 600SL seen here. The styling is very distinctive, like nothing else being produced at the time, and handling was up to the standards expected of Ducati.

But before the Pantah, there was one of Ducati’s most infamous misfires, corporate thinking that led to a failed experiment with parallel twins. It all made so much sense: a parallel twin has similar two-cylinder character and compact dimensions that improve packaging, while a single head saves production and material costs, as well as weight. What could go wrong? Well basically everything. The 500GTL might have looked like a winner on paper, but pretty much rejected everything that fans of the marque loved, and was famously unreliable as well. Luckily, Ducati engineer Fabio Taglioni had continued to develop a new v-twin, just in case…

The new engine incorporated toothed rubber belts to drive the overhead cams instead of tower shafts and gears, or the chains that were popular in other high-performance motorcycles of the period. This made assembly and mass production of the new engine a relative snap, but passed the costs on to the owners: regular belt changes are a traditional part of the Ducati ownership experience, although that particular maintenance chore can be handled by a home mechanic, and even the two-valve Desmo valve adjustment isn’t all that difficult.

On the plus side: the push towards standardization and mass-production also meant that Ducati’s signature Desmodromic positive valve actuation now appeared on all models, and not just their SuperSport machines, giving the 600SL pretty good power for a two-valve v-twin of such small displacement.

From the original eBay listing: 1982 Ducati Pantah 600SL for Sale

If you are a collector of classic and iconic sportbikes – or would like to become one – here is something you might want to investigate. The Ducati 600 SL Desmo “Pantah” was the first of the next generation of Ducatis, powered by an updated L-twin desmo motor with valve actuation done via toothed rubber belts instead of the traditional bevel drive. The belt driven valvetrain was instrumental to production volume for Ducati, as the older bevel drives required a great deal of time-consuming, skilled adjustment during assembly. Belt driven valves made true mass production a reality.

Was in storage for the past 10 years (with no petrol in the tank). Will need tune up/oil change. Carburetor was rebuilt 2 years ago.

Nice original condition motorcycle come with its original no rust Conti pipes. Will need very little work to bring it back to mint show room condition. Comes with spare Desmo Belt.

These used to be very affordable bikes, but the seller is correct: these are now definitely collectible and, considering how many were made, you don’t see them up for sale all that often. The $10,000 Buy It Now price is ambitious, but maybe not totally outrageous, considering the general condition. However… this one does have 69,000 miles on the odometer, which means it definitely isn’t low-mileage. The Pantah engine is pretty rugged, and parts should be available to maintain or restore, or you could even box up the original engine and build a hot-rod 900 that should bolt right in with just a few modifications…

-tad

Tripping the Light Pantahstic: 1982 Ducati Pantah 600SL for Sale
Ducati July 25, 2017 posted by

Big Green: 1974 Ducati 750 Supersport

When it comes to really famous, really collectable Ducatis, it is hard not to imagine the image of a green frame 750ss. Created by Ducati to celebrate the dominance of the 750cc race bikes, the Supersport has become THE streetable icon of a bygone era of brute mechanical setup and rider bravery. Devoid of electronics, slipper clutches, big brakes, sophisticated suspension or even modern tire technology, bikes of this time relied upon the skill of the rider to adjust to conditions – exactly what Paul Smart did to triumph at the 1972 Imola 200. The green frame 750 Supersport was intended as a tribute, but grew to be a tremendous success on its own. Today more people know about the street 750ss than the Italian race (and racer) that inspired it’s creation.

1974 Ducati 750 Supersport for sale on eBay

In the early 1970s, Ducati really wanted to win – which is what the likes of Norton and MV Agusta were doing. In what is now familiar Ducati fashion, they did what any manufacturer would do: they threw piles of money at it (although much of this was sweat equity and ingenuity, as Ducati was still a small manufacturer). The 500cc racer’s frame was developed by UK frame maker and famed GP racer designer Colin Seeley. Ducati developled the engines in-house, and shipped Seeley early prototype cases to help finalize the bike design. By 1971 – with test rider Mike Hailwood – it was determined that the Seeley frame was too light for the 750cc class. Fabio Taglioni, chief designer and technical director of Ducati, had already incorporated some of Seeley’s design elements into a heavier, street bike frame. That was modified to become the legendary racer; yet victory was initially elusive. With mechanical failures having been sorted out in 1971 season (best finish was Phil Read’s second to yet another Agostini win), Ducati pulled out all the stops. They fielded a total of EIGHT bikes for the 1972 Imola 200 race, and managed to pull off first and second against the likes of MV Agusta, Norton and Honda factory efforts. It was this victory that cemented Ducati’s racing reputation – and the foundation for the street machine.

From the seller:
Genuine Greenframe . Exceptional condition . Currently in Great Britain . I will airfreight to Australia for the successful bidder . Prices are going nuts on these . Buy now or be priced out of the market forever .
Engine number 075318 DM750.1
Frame number DM750SS 075061

Note : Bike is for sale in Great Britain . Will sell to however meets my price .

It’s the real thing and 99% correct, sold new in Germany and been there all its life until now, restored some years back and in a private collection for the past 20 years.
It’s very original with a few small details that aren’t correct but all the major components are in very good shape and correct like the rims, cases, frame and yes I think the glasswork is original but its difficult to be 100% sure on this as it could also be 30 year old repro stuff, but whatever it is it’s certainly not new or fresh.

It’s been re painted in the past. The parts that are non- original as far as I can tell are:
Later Tomaselli Daytona throttle.
Lefthand hi/lo/horn switch
Malossi inlet manifolds and later PHM 40mm Dell’Ortos
> I have bought one original carb so far .
Alloy mesh on original bellmouths
Drilled front brake discs
Later Marzocchi rear shock absorbers < I have a set of original shocks . Headlamp bracket painted green instead of satin black Both front fairing brackets cut down to take one bolt instead of two There is also a broken fin on the rear cylinder. Easy to repair . A front Brembo master cylinder fitted but the original Scarab comes with it. Mechanically its excellent and runs and rides superbly, the condition is very nice but you can see it's not a fresh restoration.

The 1974 Ducati 750 Supersport has often been referred to as one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever produced. The Gugenheim museum highlighted the green frame prominently in their exhibit “The Art of Motorcycle.” And collector value for these bikes has soared – to what many consider unreasonable levels. Built by Ducati’s race shop in limited numbers (401 is the generally accepted number), this was a true race replica. Sporting triple disk brakes (claimed to be the first street bike to offer this feature), and the cases right out of the racer, the 750ss street bike made concessions for the road; a strengthened crankshaft, provisions for an oil cooler (although none was originally fitted), and different carburetors. The green frame Ducati is said to be the only round case, bevel drive desmo bike produced for the street. The bike even retains the racer’s semi-transparent stripe on the tank; a no-need-for-a-gauge solution to determining fuel levels.

This is collector-grade machinery, and with it comes a collector-grade price tag. The opening ask for this auction is a cool $190,000 USD – with a reserve in place. The bike was originally sold in Germany, however it now resides in the UK. At this price, only museums, small countries, or heirs to the Microsoft fortune need apply. But it is good to dream, right? To find a nearly original 1974 Ducati 750ss in this type of condition is a mega-rare event, and you can be assured it will not repeat any time soon. Check it out here and good luck!!

MI

Big Green: 1974 Ducati 750 Supersport