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Ducati November 20, 2019 posted by

Truth in Advertising: 1993 Ducati 888 SPO for Sale

It’s common for manufacturers to fudge things a bit when identifying their cars and motorcycles. Often, the name specifically referred to at least the approximate size of the engine, but liberties are often taken, especially when the displacement changes, but the name stays the same. The Mustang 5.0? Actually 302ci works out to 4948cc, which you should probably round down to 4.9 liters… But it’s pretty close at least, and sounds much cooler. Can you imagine Vanilla Ice crusin’ in his four-point-nine? Bike manufacturers are even worse about rounding things off to sound good. The Norton Commando 850 was packing 828cc, and the Ducati Pantah 600 had 583cc. Fortunately, Ducati redeemed themselves with the oddly-specific 888 SPO…

Until the introduction of the the also-accurately-named 851, Ducati made do with air/oil-cooled engines, and relied on their light weight and agility to compete against more poerful machines. Unfortunately, the handling of Japanese superbikes continued to improve by leaps and bounds, and the Italians knew the only way to stay competitive in production racing would be to evolve. Ducati’s 851 superbike was powered by an extensive redesign of their 90° v-twin that added liquid cooling and four valves per cylinder, with all eight actuated by the company’s famed Desmodromic system. The system basically eliminated valve float, although high mean piston speeds were a much bigger issue for a 10,000rpm v-twin. A more important advantage probably came from the ability to use more aggressive cam profiles to both open and close the valves.

The 888 that followed naturally used a slightly larger, more developed version of that engine. A six-speed gearbox backed by an exotic dry clutch gave racing credibility, along with that characteristic Ducati rattle that is often louder than the exhaust at idle, especially on a stock bike. Two versions of the bike were available in most markets: the 888 Strada and the higher-performance 888 SP5. The SP5 wasn’t road-legal here in the USA, so we got a bike that really slotted in between the two Euro versions called the SPO or “Sport Production Omologato” that was intended to homologate the bike for AMA racing. Unlike the Strada, the SPO had a solo-seat tail, upswept exhaust for more cornering clearance, and an Öhlins shock. A heavier steel subframe was used in place of the SP5’s aluminum unit, and the engine was basically in the same state of tune as the Strada, with around 100hp and a meaty torque band.

From the original eBay listing: 1993 Ducati 888 SPO for Sale

1993 Ducati 888 SPO with 4824 original miles and in excellent condition.  

Purchased new in the Seattle area and stayed a local bike all its life. Documented history throughout its 4824 miles, beginning from original purchase agreement in 1993 (pictured). Last full service (includes belts adjustment) done at 4600 miles in 2015. All major parts are original, including radiator (pictured) which shows matching usage/wear to the bike’s mileage. Pipes were upgraded to Ferraccis back when the bike was new, and coolant hoses were replaced during the last service in 2015. Also recently replaced the fairing fasteners to period correct OEM fasteners as the gold plating on the originals were faded due to age.

Title is free and clear, and comes with 2 original keys and owners manual. Stand is not included.

This bike has very low miles and includes the desirable, period-correct Fast by Ferracci exhaust is a nice option that should add a period-correct exhaust note. The seller is asking a very steep $16,500 for this one, but it’s very original, well-kept, and you’ll likely not find another in this kind of condition if you’re looking to grab an SPO for your collection.

-tad

Truth in Advertising: 1993 Ducati 888 SPO for Sale
Ducati September 26, 2019 posted by

Street Creds: 1991 Ducati 851

If you are of a certain age and into sport bikes from the 1980s and 1990s, the Ducati 851 has to be a standout. Bred for World Superbike racing, the 851 (and the 888 and 916 that followed) proved the performance of a well-engineered twin – even against the Japanese multis. With liquid cooling, fuel injection and revolutionary 4-valve heads operated via desmo, the 851 rev’ed impossibly fast and high for a twin. With a narrow waist, light weight and aerodynamic bodywork, the 851 took the fight to the conventional fours… and won.

1991 Ducati 851 for sale on eBay

Today’s example is a 1991 851 Strada – or “street” version. This is the base model of the 851, and includes features such as a passenger pillion, passenger pegs and hidden grab rails that fold out from under the seat. In stock form the exhaust cans sit relatively low to accommodate passenger legs, and the pillion is otherwise covered by color-coded bodywork. When fully assembled, the tail looks like a solo unit. Components are as you might expect: Suspension by Showa, braking by Brembo. Horsepower is in the 95 HP range stock, making peak power at about 9,500 RPM.

From the seller:
Ducati 851,1991 model.Bike has had a full service including valve adjustment,new timing belts,new steering head bearings,upgraded clutch slave cylinder,fren tubo brake and clutch lines,gio ca moto carbon mufflers with fim adjustable ecu chip,period ferrachi decals,oil cooler from 1198,bike in good cond,some storage marks on left fairing from garage parking.

There is a note on the title stating mileage has exceeded mechanical limits,which is an error from the title office application form,they inform me it can not be removed.If this is an issue please bid on someone elses bike.

This particular example has some tasty mods. The Gia.Co.Mo carbon cans are lightweight and sound marvelous – however the high placement pretty much eliminates the passenger pegs. The FI chip is necessary to tune the bike to the new exhaust, and generally wake up throttle response. The other bits are what you might expect a bike of this age to accumulate over time; some performance parts, and some maintenance items. The rear pillion cover is missing, and the plastic over the taillight should be red, not black. But otherwise this looks to be complete. Thumbs up for all of the service details, as that is a critical element to these bikes. I’m not familiar with upgrading the oil cooler to something later/larger, but these engines do utilize oil as a cooling medium in addition to being water cooled, so there may be a performance gain. Not sure what to make of the odo reading on the title; that might take some investigation. Lots of people watching this one, but with the price way down in the $3,500 range at time of writing (reserve in place), this one still has some runway. Check it out here as this one could be a bargain in the making. Good Luck!!

MI

Street Creds: 1991 Ducati 851
Sport Bikes For Sale July 17, 2019 posted by

Please be real: 1990 Ducati 851 SP2

You’d think at a $55,000 ask, it wouldn’t be beyond the pale to ask for more than two photos of a motorcycle, but what do we know? And, be that as it may, most motorcycles are not the 1990 Ducati 851 SP2, a rare-as-rocking-horse-poo repli-racer from Ducati’s renaissance as a superbike racing brand.

1990 Ducati 851 SP2 for sale on eBay

As the name implies, this was the second evolution of the 851 Sport Production, and came with bigger valves, a 45mm Termignoni exhaust and fully-adjustable Ohlins suspension on both ends. The four-valve liquid-cooled v-twin in the standard 851 was exotic enough for most, but the SP2 mill was truly special, pushing out nigh on 120 horsepower from two cylinders at a time when that was an impressive figure from four pots.

Unfortunately, the pictures don’t do much justice to this machine, though it appears to be in very clean condition with a set of modern Michelin tires. The shot of the triple clamp matches the description’s claim that this is bike number 250.

From the eBay listing:

Used Ducati 851/888 SP 2

Number 250 from the limeted 1000

1 owner not damage or crash good condition.

shipping we inform when real intrest from Ducatisti and real price.(make offer)

Ohlins Fork and damper new Fork Pipe original Ohlins.

116 Hp 22000 Km German approval.

verhicle ID ZDM888S000250

Info and location south germany

The asking price is a little eye-watering, but you’ll be hard pressed to find another 1990 Ducati 851 SP2, and there is no doubting the heritage and provenance the bike carries.

Please be real: 1990 Ducati 851 SP2
Ducati June 12, 2019 posted by

Rider Quality: 1990 Ducati 851

If Hunter S. Thompson, whose vocation was more or less using heavy drugs and shooting things, was so scared of the Ducati 900SS/SP that he wrote more of a cautionary tale than a review, it is truly hard to imagine the bone-deep terror a Ducati 851 must inspire on the street. With 15 or so more horsepower, a decidedly livelier engine and the distinct aim of winning superbike races, the 1990 Ducati 851 is a much more potent weapon than its stabelmate, even if it is slightly heavier.

1990 Ducati 851 for sale on eBay

This 1990 Ducati 851 looks like a really good chance to get your hands on the bike Ducati built to re-establish itself as a force on the racetrack. It’s an honest, rider-quality machine with blemishes to show it was used and service records to show it was loved. It is clean enough to be proud of, but not so spotless that riding it comes at the expense of its value. It’s the perfect candidate to ride for a few years before setting in on a decent restoration.

From the eBay listing:

Nice example of an original Ducati 851 Superbike. Starts, runs and rides good. Valves serviced, New Cam Belts, Oil, oil filter and coolant . Does not appear to have been raced or wrecked. Does have minor paint chips, nicks and scratches.No major body work damage or repairs (see pictures of body work off bike inside and outside).
We are a small Ohio used motorcycle dealer and will provide you a title in your name. As a Ohio motorcycle dealer we are required to collect sales tax from Ohio residents and residents of AZ,CA,FL,IN,MA,MI and SC. There is a $15 title fee collected from all buyers. We can not quote or provide shipping, but will assist loading.
The bike is being sold as is, so send questions or call Al 740-928-1000

This 851 isn’t the cleanest or the lowest mileage one out there, and it’s just the standard Strada model, but it’s still a 100-horsepower weapon packed with all the tech that Ducati could muster at the time.

Rider Quality: 1990 Ducati 851
Ducati April 25, 2019 posted by

Featured Listing: 1992 Ducati 851 Strada

Update 4.27.2019: Sold in just two days to an RSBFS reader. Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

The Ducati 851 is the father of modern Ducatis, from the world-changing 916 to the astonishing Panigale V4R. Without this boxy, lithe very red machine, those bikes would not be. The 851 arrived in 1987, with a very hopped up version of Ducati’s venerated Pantah engine. The air-cooled 90-degree, two-valve twin in the Pantah was updated with liquid cooling, four-valve heads and fuel injection for the 851, and Ducati shot back to the top of racing leaderboards.

Spitting out 93 horsepower and gobs of torque in a 430-pound chassis, the 851 was a statement that Ducati could use its agricultural engine tech to devastating effect. In 1990, the bike took home the World Superbike title, among a raft of other accolades over its five-year run.

This 1992 Ducati 851 Strada is from the last year before the 888 broke cover, and it has been kept largely unridden in a climate-controlled storage facility. Though it hasn’t crossed 3,000 miles since it was purchased as a leftover in 1995, all the major services have been done on a strict interval. Aside from the Fast by Feracci carbon cans, it is a stock machine.

From the seller:

This is a rare find, super low miles, Ducati 851 Superbike. This bike was purchased used from Bellevue Suzuki Ducati in 1995, at the time it was under 1000 miles on the clock. It has not seen much more use by its current owner as it was purchased to round out the collection of Ducati Superbikes, the 851/888/916. All three bikes have remained in owners collection until recently when he let the 888 go up for sale. Now we have been asked to find proper homes for the 851 and 916 still in his possession. Both the 851 and 916 have been kept serviced and stored in a heated shop/garage space. Run from time to time, oil changed and belts replaced at regular intervals. Other than the ever popular Fast by Ferracci carbon exhaust and a tank protector this beauty is all original. Ducati 851’s rarely come up for sale as it is, let alone one as clean as this one. Hurry, it will not last long. We have it scheduled for complete safety inspection and a 2-year service which will include oil, filter, hydraulics, coolant along with new timing belts. The owner has kindly provided some service records as well. It does have a clear WA title, all original keys and manuals included.

Here is some of the early press about these;

Ducati came of age in the late 80s, using ideas that the Far East thought as antiquated and as such not worth pursuing, the Italians enjoyed staggering race successes, and with it many sales to the public, motorcycling hasn’t been quite the same since. Chris Pearson samples the bike at the beginning of it all

Based upon the 1978 Pantah bottom end, the design was the first real modern day Ducati Superbike and successfully bridged the gap until the arrival of the 916 some seven years later. The first sight of the all-new Ducati road bike was caught at the Milan show in the autumn of 1987 although the prototype race bikes had provided more than their fair share of clues and insights into what was waiting just around the corner. Developed as a direct descendant of the Daytona winning twin from 1987, the production version of the 851 differed little from that prototype race machine. Ducati’s intentions for the new model were clear from the outset being offered in both Strada (road going) and Kit (race track) specification, for those wishing to put their 851’s directly on to the track. 200 examples of the latter were hurriedly assembled to satisfy the homologation required for the inaugural 1988 World Superbike championship, a roadster based race series that Ducati were more than keen to be a part of.

The basis of the 1987 spec Ducati 851 lived on until the end of 1993, gradually growing in capacity up to the 888cc model of 1992, proving so dominant on the rack that the planned update, the iconic 916 series, was held over for more than a year finally making its debut towards the end of 93 ready for its full onslaught in 1994.

Credits cards accepted, up to $150.00 documentation charge may be added.

You’d be hard pressed to find another 1992 Ducati 851 in this kind of shape anywhere for any price. At $9,200, we have a low-mileage perfectly-preserved example of the superbike that put Ducati back in the conversation.

Featured Listing: 1992 Ducati 851 Strada
Ducati February 19, 2019 posted by

Top Gun: 1991 Ducati 851

I’m not sure you can overstate the importance of the Ducati 851 to the Italian brand’s position at the top of motorcycling’s desirability food chain. Get past the literally and figuratively square headlight — the steel-framed 1983 dad glasses of illumination — and everything else is focused, lithe Italic sin. The 851 took a pokey, dated bottom end, stuck big pistons, four-valve heads and water cooling on and paved the way for the next 20 years of Ducati twins. Bologna shoved the resulting 100-horse mill into a chassis that only just nudged past 460 pounds wet and set about gathering up the 1990 World Superbike Championship.

1991 Ducati 851 for sale on eBay

Though the family resemblance is under the skin, there would be no Ducati 916 if it weren’t for the 851. As you might expect, the Ducati 851 is known for laser-precise handling, and the prodigious and immediate shove that big L-twins are known for. The beast makes its peak horsepower shy of 10,000 rpm, but that doesn’t mean it’s a lazy or ponderous engine. It’s every bit as racy as the chassis and suspension that support it.

The 1991 Ducati 851 you see here appears to be in near-perfect shape, with just a small hole in the seat marring an otherwise flawless preservation. In the grand scheme of things, 1991 wasn’t that long ago, yet the 851 is simple in a way that no modern machine can match. The dashboard is three dials. The body work is a thin carbon fiber skirt around a steel trellis. The paint on the front fender is so thin the weave is threatening to break through. It’s perfect.

From the eBay listing:

Very nice condition 1991 Ducati 851, runs fine, had new belts a year ago, mostly stock except exhaust and rear fender hugger. Excellent paint, no damage. Tires new. All over very good +
condition. I bought it to ride but I’m 60 and cant take the riding position..otherwise I’d never sell.
Please E mail or call w questions..6193158428 Stu Thanks Have title ( clean ) in hand.

The bike has definitely seen some miles, with the clock showing 33,000 racked up in 28 years, but who can fault a guy for riding his Ducati? It does not appear to be too much worse for wear, and at $6,900 buy-it-now, it’s a damn-near no-brainer.

Top Gun: 1991 Ducati 851
Ducati January 22, 2019 posted by

Your Mileage May Varese: 1995 Ducati 916

The Ducati 916 is a bike that should need no introduction on these pages. The immortal, evolutionary offspring of the 851/888, the 916 offers every bit of performance that the evocative design implies. And while time has a tendency to mute the claims and hyperboles of an era, this model continues to represent itself well. Simultaneously recognized as a performance benchmark (with 5 WSBK titles to its name thanks to Fogarty and Corser) and a styling icon (Guggenheim’s “The Art of Motorcycle”), the 916 was a quantum leap ahead of anything available when it was originally released in 1994. And while sharper and even more focused models were to follow (SP, SPS, SP2, SP3, SPA, Senna Edition), the base model obliterated everything in it’s 1994-1995 era path.

1995 Ducati 916 for sale on eBay

While the 916 has little resemblance to the previous generation 851/888, the family DNA becomes more obvious when the bodywork is removed. From the trademark trellis frame to the liquid-cooled, fuel injected, four valve per cylinder desmoquattro power plant, there are subtle changes but pretty much everything is in the same place. That makes a lot of sense given the history of how Ducati introduces new models. The 851 and 888 SP models were actually test beds for the next generation engine. The 888 SP4, for example, was already a 916 in displacement, just like the 851 SP3 actually displaced 888cc. From there is where the revolution took over. Chassis geometry was sharpened, a unique single-sided swing arm fitted, the high exhaust introduced to increase cornering clearance, packaging was tightened up and the marvelous, angular bodywork was shrink-wrapped over the top. Fast, gorgeous, expensive and uncompromising, the 916 cemented Ducati as THE performance player in the sport bike world.

From the seller:
Here we go Boys and Girls, not to many clean ones on the market, this bike has being storage for a few years, second owner selling it, no used for any more never on the track, never down.

It May need service, the bike start easy. Ask questions, very motivated to sell it, Im shrinking my collection of 20 years. Ask questions and bid with confidence

The Ducati 916 lineup has an interesting sub-version history as well. Just as the bike was introduced, just as the press was going mad and the orders were starting to come in, a fire at the Bologna factory shut the party down. Desperate to get product back up and running, Ducati temporarily relocated production to a Cagiva facility located in Varese, Italy. And while the 916s assembled in Varese are identical to those that rolled off of the Bologna factory floor, there is still a mystique about them. Because the Varese location did not initially have a full production line, the contention is that Varese bikes were more “hand built” making them more special. Realistically you can only tell a Varese bike from the VIN number, but the story propogates the mysterious and the magic behind this very special motorcycle. Today’s example appears to be a Varese model by the numbers.

The seller has not provided a lot of text or back history in the advert, but there are a few decent pictures here. With 22k on the clock there are more miles that we normally see on these models (long-range comfort was never a priority). Time has been kind to the 916, and longevity should not be a question like it was nearly 25 years ago. Parts availability continues to be good, and this is as collectible a classic as you are likely to find. Even if you are not looking for an investment, the 916 has great performance and will continue to look striking and purposeful for decades to come. Check it out here, and then jump back to the Comments section and share your thoughts. Do you buy into the Varese nostalgia, and are those bikes better? Good Luck!!

MI

Your Mileage May Varese: 1995 Ducati 916
Ducati November 30, 2018 posted by

Used Well: 1991 Ducati 851

The Ducati 851 is a long-standing icon in the sport bike world. Leading the charge to Ducati’s dominant run of WSBK titles, the 851 was as successful on the showroom/street as it was on the track. Simultaneously introducing liquid cooling, fuel injection and four valve desmo heads, the 851 was both the leading edge of where Ducati had been, as well as the foundation for the future. And the sound? All the booming twin noises you expect, with a very unexpected-for-a-twin high redline. Good looks never hurt either, and the 851 exhibits the classic lines of the 1990s sportbike. You gotta hand it to the Italians – they know how to build a supermodel that checks all the right boxes.

1991 Ducati 851 for sale on eBay

The development of “rubber band” Pantah motor was an evolutionary design in the 2-valve, air-cooled Ducati twin. The 851 motor took the Pantah guts and revolutionized the rest. Four valve heads were actually part of Massimo Bordi’s thesis at University; this project allowed him to make them a production reality with the assistance of famed engineering firm Cosworth. Liquid cooling was a no-brainer; better control of heat allowed for closer tolerances and ultimately more (and more reliable power). Fuel injection – a first for Ducati – heralded the future of electronics in motorcycles and in racing. This feature also allowed for tuning and tweaking, necessary to extract the maximum performance from the engine/exhaust combinations tested. Utilizing known techniques, the chassis was a birdcage affair of straight steel tubing. Original plans called for a 16″ front wheel (1987 and 1988 model years), which was all the rage for GP machines at the time. However stability issues cropped up, and the now standard 17 incher was fitted. Later 851s received Ohlins upgrades from the original design Marzocchi units, and Brembos adorned the hubs front and rear.

From the seller:
Up for sale is my 1991 Ducati 851. It’s original, it’s complete, it’s immaculate, well taken care of, always garaged and under cover.
All original with tons of work in last 7 years.

Work in 2011 at 15k miles. Motor refresh, new rings, hone, bearings checked, valves adjusted, belts, everything gone through. Upgraded clutch slave New SS brake lines front/rear New clutch with basket open cover New coolant hoses Rebuild rear Ohlins shock Fast by Ferracci stage 1 chip and high carbon pipes.

Work done in 2018 at 16k miles. New front upgraded 916 Brembo rotors/OE pads, Diablo Rossi III tires, OEM battery. The bike is wearing original seat, original pipes and rear pegs now.
You won’t find a cleaner original condition collectible worthy 851.

When introduced, the 851 was considered a bit of a high-strung, maintenance-intensive and potentially fragile offering – providing performance at the cost of reliability and/or longevity. History has clearly shown this not to be true, however. Yes, there are some unique service aspects to owning a Pantah-based Ducati, including frequent belt changes and valve adjustment intervals (when compared to your average sewing machine). However these are not the Fiat-related, oil leaking, rust buckets than many feared. These are actually quite robust and reliable steeds that continue to churn out the sound and performance expected, and readers should not hesitate to consider a higher mileage bike. We have, in fact, seen specimens with double the mileage listed here (16,000); provided belts have been changed and services rendered, this motor is well neigh bulletproof.

Today’s particular example appears to have been used well, as opposed to well used. It is a ’91 851 Strada (biposto). Yes, it has had some miles under the keel. But it has also had a decent amount of service, no doubt at the behest of an owner who keeps his machines healthy and in order. As part of the maintenance there have also been some upgrades. Like the factory, this owner has replaced components with newer available items, both maintaining and enhancing performance of the bike. Being a ’91 model, it wears the white frame and white wheels – a striking combination (’92 and onwards went to black hoops). Is it really the cleanest original condition 851 we have seen? I would chalk that up to a bit of poetic license as this bike is not strictly original from a purist standpoint. But it is very, very clean – and continues to evoke visceral, emotional responses you might not find in a more modern bike. Whether or not it is worth the premium asking price is another matter (seller is open to offers). Check out all of the details here, and then jump back to the Comments section and lets chat 851s and higher mileage Ducs. Good Luck!!

MI

Used Well: 1991 Ducati 851