Posts by tag: MotoGP

Cagiva January 16, 2017 posted by

Some Assembly Required: 1989 Cagiva 500GP V589 for Sale

We don't normally post project or incomplete bikes here on RSBFS, but this one seemed too good to pass up: one of Cagiva's inspired but ultimately doomed series of 500cc GP machines, the V589. Battling against the established giants, Cagiva originally experimented with an inline-four configuration but eventually followed Suzuki's successful formula with a square four, before switching to a V4 in 1986. They may have struggled to win races, but if bonus points had been awarded for looks, the Cagivas might have stood a better chance, since they're considered by some to be the prettiest racebikes of all time.

Even if you don't agree, the specifications are certainly stunning: in an effort to keep up with the more established players, Cagiva experimented with some really wild technology, considering these were racing in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Extensive use of carbon fiber, traction-control, and electronic suspension were all tried to give Cagiva a competitive edge, although consistent success eluded them and they withdrew from competition at the end of 1994.

Earlier machines like this one had clear stylistic links to the Ducati 916 and Cagiva Mito which should be no surprise, as the V589 was designed by Massimo Tamburini. Some versions included a carbon fiber swingarm, although this one has the aluminum version. Much of this V589's bodywork is missing, but that's no surprise as those bits are pretty expandable on a race bike. Fortunately, it has the all-important frame, although it sounds like that will require some changes to re-orient the shock, as it was modified at some point to try an alternative configuration.

From the original eBay listing: 1989 Cagiva 500GP V589 for Sale

This is a genuine 1989 Original Factory Works Cagiva V4 500 Grand Prix race bike, as ridden by Randy Mamola etc. It is sold as an incomplete project and is for restoration.

The engine has been rebuilt recently and is fresh but I would still check it as it's stood for a little while. The factory records confirms the original build date of 23/06/89. The frame is chassis 4, it has a special fuel tank which was used to test the ignition in the tank area and also modified to try a top mount shock rather than the original horizontal fitting. The swing arm and shock are the original horizontal type so the frame would need reverting to take the horizontal mounts. There is a linkage arm, the shock is a special Öhlins 500GP unit made for Cagiva. The dash includes temp gauge, Magnetti Marelli ignition, rectifier, battery, PV controller. There is a radiator, coil packs, PV motor, magnesium wheels with front discs, sprocket, cables for throttle and pv, the complete triple clamp magnesium assembly, footrest hangers, rear master cylinder, cast water pipes, upper front fairing, belly pan with air box sections. There are exhausts and silencers but will need modifying to fit as they are later year. Some small parts also. So it is a very good basis. All the parts are original Cagiva GP but as the bikes changed constantly from race to race some parts are from varied dates and may need work to fit. Please study the photos to see what is included, everything is shown.

The main missing parts are fork legs (Marzocchi or Öhlins were used at various times) carburettors, brake calipers (Brembo or AP were used) seat unit, mid-fairing section, tacho, bars with levers and throttle, wiring, some other small parts.

I can put the buyer in touch with a collector who has other Cagiva parts to finish the bike.

The price for this one-of-a-kind bit of racing history? Just $55,000 but, considering the missing parts and what they will cost to track down or create, this is definitely an "experts only" proposition, but those of us with reasonable means can still look at the possibilities and dream...

-tad

Some Assembly Required: 1989 Cagiva 500GP V589 for Sale
Honda January 7, 2017 posted by

Grand Prix Dreams: 1990 Honda RS125 for Sale

The second Honda RS125 that's been up for sale in the past couple weeks, this looks like a more bare-bones offering than the last one we featured, although it still appears to be in decent shape. If you're not familiar with the RS125, it's no "race replica": it's an over-the-counter competition machine meant for racing, not a stripped-down roadbike. Weighing in at 160lbs with a half-tank of fuel, it is powered by a very slightly undersquare 124.4cc two-stroke single that is backed by a six-speed gearbox.

These tiny two-strokes aren't for novices: the high-strung little engine makes a stunning 40+hp and that kind of power-to-weight means regular rebuilds, and shepherding the power from that tiny engine requires constant tuning and gearing changes to suit different altitudes, conditions, and tracks. It helps that the competition design means they're relatively simple to work on, but these are serious Grand Prix motorcycles, and potentially a stepping stone to bigger, faster bikes and more prestigious classes.

From the original eBay listing: 1990 Honda RS125 for Sale

Very rare Honda GP racer RS125, 125cc two-stroke single.
Very nice original condition.
1990 model legal to Vintage class racing.
Please see pictures for more detail.
Any questions please ask.
Will ship worldwide.

There's not much bidding activity so far and no Buy It Now price is listed, so perhaps this bike just hasn't found its audience yet, or maybe folks are looking for listings with more detailed descriptions? Is it the lack of extras? Spares for these little race bikes are very desirable, owing to the fact that they can be a pain to acquire and will be regularly needed if you plan to keep one running: 125s are often associated with cheap, reliable transportation, but the RS125 is a racing machine, and will require regular tuning and maintenance if the new owner intends to use the bike for its intended purpose.

-tad

 

 

Grand Prix Dreams: 1990 Honda RS125 for Sale
Honda December 13, 2016 posted by

Lightweight Racer: 1998 Honda RS250R for Sale

To the uninitiated, Honda's alpha-numeric naming convention can get confusing, and it'd be easy to mistake this RS250R for something like a garden-variety NSR250R with a set of track-day fairings. But unlike the road-legal, race-replica NSR250R, the RS250R was a production race-bike, a Grand Prix machine in miniature. With the fairings removed, the elegant simplicity of this lightweight machine is clearly visible.

It’s absolutely not a learner bike, or a practical track-day ride: it’s a pure GP racing motorcycle, and needs the attention you’d expect to keep it running properly. Powered by an ever-so-slightly undersquare 54x54.5mm two-stroke v-twin that could be tuned to snarl out over 90hp, the complete package weighed 223lbs dry, which should make loading it back into your van or pickup at the end of the day much easier than even your average 600cc sportbike.

Bikes up until 1993 used a 90° v-twin, but this later example uses a redesigned 75° unit, presumably because it is more compact, and the increased vibrations caused by the imperfect primary balance would be of limited concern for a racebike, especially considering the minimal mass of the tiny pistons and rods.

From the original eBay listing: 1998 Honda RS250R for Sale

Honda RS250R NX5 98, Most of you know what your looking at, for those that don't: this is a rare factory GP bike for racing use only, It is NOT street legal! Not recommended for the novice racer or trackday guys either, these 250 GP bikes reward talent and punish mistakes. Very sorted and capable machine with all standard equipment.

One sprint race in '13 on full engine and chassis rebuild. Rebuilt and rechecked this fall 2016. We went through the bike and installed new Pirelli slicks (green) on freshly powder coated wheels, new OEM clutch, new silicone hose kit, rings, RK chain, refinished pipes and professionally painted bodywork with new wind screen. Needs nothing except a discerning owner. Some spares are available separately.
This was Brian Kcraget's B bike, Brian last raced this machine and WON on it in 2013 (see podium pic). Has been stored properly since and not used.
So obviously, titling and registration issues are irrelevant here, since this a pure race bike. The $12,000 Buy It Now price for this example will seem steep if you're expecting 250CBR or even NSR250R prices. But keep in mind that, while the displacement may be small, the level of performance and the quantity Honda race-spec parts will be high, although this example doesn't include any spares, which is something to consider if you're planning to use it regularly. It's pretty bare-bones, but a very cool and functional tool for going fast and will likely still provide serious thrills for a skilled rider.
-tad
Lightweight Racer: 1998 Honda RS250R for Sale
Ducati June 22, 2016 posted by

Sweet Sixteen: 2008 Ducati Desmosedici D16RR for Sale

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As is always the case with exotic machinery, a simple truth-in-advertising name sounds so much better in Italian… Oooooh. A Maserati Quattroporte… That sounds so sexy. Wait, it just means "four doors"? You’re saying that the name of that four-door Maserati is “Maserati four-door”? The same thing is true for Ducati’s GP6-based Desmosedici D16RR road bike: the name literally means “desmodromic sixteen” and refers to the number of valves in the V4 engine’s Desmo heads… maybe not as sexy as naming your motorcycle after a famous race victory, but it has a pragmatic quality that suits a detuned race bike, with the bonus that most folks just think it sounds cool.

2008 Ducati Desmo L Side Rear

Race-replicas clog up eBay every day, but most are just graphics jobs on the fairing of an ordinary roadbike, or homologation specials designed to allow certain bikes or just specific parts to be used in various race classes. But the D16RR is something else entirely, a one-of-a-kind machine that shares almost no parts with any production Ducati, a detuned MotoGP prototype, fitted with lights. Technically, that’s a bit of an exaggeration, as it’s not like the road bike's engine parts are actually interchangeable with the race bike’s…  And there are plenty of other changes as well. For example, it’s not a dry-sump engine like the race bikes, but it does have gear-driven cams and a “Twin-Pulse” firing order that gave the bike something closer to the Ducati’s signature v-twin growl…

2008 Ducati Desmo R Side Front

But honestly, the fact that it’s not really a detuned racebike almost makes it more impressive considering the mere 1,500 built, since the design brief for this engine was basically “make a brand new engine that is as much like the race engine as is practical, but shares no parts with it.”  It is an utterly impractical motorcycle, a barely-tamed 989cc V4 monster that cranks out nearly 200hp at the crank, with absolutely top-shelf suspension at the front and rear. A Desmosedici cost over $70,000 new and, although they’re currently trading for much less, you’d better be prepared for very expensive maintenance costs down the line. Does your local shop even stock tires to fit that 16" rear wheel?

2008 Ducati Desmo Belly Pan

This example has been used a bit, although miles are still extremely low, and it is fitted with one of the accessory Ducati Performance exhausts that were available for the bike and gave it a more authentic style than the stock part, increased noise, and a nice hole in the bellypan.

From the original eBay listing: 2008 Ducati Desmosedici for Sale

This is a pre-owned 2008 Ducati Desmosedici. This bike has 4300 miles and has the GP Exhaust installed. Overall condition of the bike is good, it has been ridden so it has some rock chips in the lower fairing, small scratch in the swingarm and a few minor small cosmetic imperfections. Nothing wrong mechanically and nothing bad cosmetically, normal 4300 mile condition, it has never been down. Tires still have some life but the bike will come with a brand new set. This bike comes with: bike stand, cover, 2 keys, owners manual, new set of OEM tires. It does not have the complete owners manual, just the main one. It does not have the plaque, stock or race exhaust. Only the parts that are listed.

2008 Ducati Desmo Tank

Bidding is very active and up north of $35,000.00, a bargain price for a Desmo. The missing bits might put off collectors but, if the price stays low, someone’s getting a good deal. Personally, I’d be happy with the very cool GP exhaust, since the original configuration always seemed weird to me: why does it need to exit out the top of the tail section? Okay, I get it: you want to keep the brake light and signals looking conventional. But wouldn’t it make more sense for a straight shot out the tail, and build some sort of LED bit around it or suspended beneath it, like on the Benelli TnT? Especially since that would look even more racebike-y?

2008 Ducati Desmo Tail

In any event, until the Honda RCV213 came along, this was the closest bike fans could get to a road-legal GP bike and that always seems to get the attention of collectors. They sound hellacious, look like nothing else on the road even ten years on, and offer up repair and maintenance bills that will definitely remind you that you own a thoroughbred exotic…

-tad

2008 Ducati Desmo L Side

Sweet Sixteen: 2008 Ducati Desmosedici D16RR for Sale
Ducati November 6, 2015 posted by

Double Desmo: Multiple 2008 Ducati Desmosedici D16RR

Today's post is for two Ducati Desmosedici, a bike which I think is the most lustworthy Ducati of the last 20 years, even more so than the 916/996/998.  One is a truly incredible Casey Stoner homage and the other appears to a pristine "team version" edition.

A true "racebike-for-the-streets", the Desmosedici was a limited production, road-legal version of the racebike that Casey Stoner rode to MotoGP glory and thereby helped to restore Ducati to the pinnacle of the motorcycle world.  Ducati made 1500 Desmosedici for public purchase and offered them for an eye-popping 72,500 USD and even in the midst of the 2006-2008 financial crisis, all 1500 units that were produced were pre-sold.

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2008 Ducati Desmosedici Casey Stoner replica on ebay

Before digging into the the details of this particular Desmosedici, I think its important to take a moment and explain the impact that Casey Stoner's success on the Ducati Desmosedici had on motorcycling.  Consider the following excerpt;

Ducati had stopped participating in the top tier/"Grand Prix" racing class in 1972 when 2 stroke motors became dominant. The company did continue to participate in four-stroke production model race classes such as TT1, TT2 and World Superbike but it was only in the 1990's when MotoGP rule changes gave priority to four-stroke machinery that the company decided to re-enter the world’s premier racing class/Moto GP.  

At the time Ducati re-entered MotoGP, no European manufacturer had won the top tier championship since MV Agusta in 1973, a span of almost 30 years.  

The Desmosedici began in 2003 as a design effort by a group of young Moto Corse engineers (average age of 28) and was built around a brand-new V-4 engine that incorporating Ducati's traditional 90-degree cylinder layout and a 16 valve engine with desmodromic control.  The engine was designed for one thing-racing.  

Including twin overhead camshafts, the engine was mounted in a tubular steel frame with the engine as a stressed member.  The rear suspension and aluminium swing-arm were bolted directly to the engine, the front forks were top shelf Öhlins, power was transferred via a six-speed cassette-type gearbox, shifts were via a multi-plate slipper clutch, and noted F1 aerodynamics expert Alan Jenkins designed the all-enveloping bodywork.  All the pieces were combined to produce a machine that produced over 220 horsepower at 16,000 rpm. 

The Desmosedeci effort was successful from 2003-2007, with multiple podium finishes and Ducati finishing second in the constructor championship but the top level championship remained elusive.  This was despite the efforts of riders such as Carlos Checca, Loris Capirossi, and Sete Gibernau.  In 2007 the maximum engine capacity for MotoGp was reduced to 800 cc and evolutionary changes to bike were made, including a change to the firing order.  The changes, combined with the promotion of former fourth Ducati rider Casey Stoner of Australia to the number one rider spot resulted in astonishing results.  Stoner stomped the competition at the opening race at Qatar, setting the fastest lap of the race on his final lap and roaring past Valentino Rossi on the back straight to finish ahead by almost three seconds.  Stoner and the Ducati dominated the motogp season, winning an astonishing 10 MotoGp races and Ducati finally succeeded in its attempt to reach the upper echelon of motorcycle manufacturers.

Perhaps the most significant impact of the Desmosedici success was that it helped persuade other european manufacturers to rejoin the large displacement sportbike segment for both the street and racing.  Within a few years companies such as KTM and BMW were launching large displacement sportbike development efforts, resulting in bikes such as the RC8 and S1000 respectively.  

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This particular Desmosedici is #456 and the seller indicates they are the second owner. The seller has also gone to a great amount of effort to replicate the Casey Stoner graphics package on the bike, and perhaps most importantly, indicates that all major recalls have been done.

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Here is some of what the seller has to say

  • Brand New OEM Ducati Bridgestone tires were just mounted with 0 miles.
  • New Battery.
  • Only added items are an OEM Ducati carbon fiber rear fender and an OEM Ducati carbon fiber gas cap.
  • All recalls have been completed on the bike except for the recall that requires you to cut the rear carbon tail section if you use the “street” silencer.  This bike has the race silencer on it.
  • Bike has been in Monterey California for the past year with “John” at Finishing Touch Custom Paint, who paints and installs graphics on all the most custom race bikes and has an awesome relationship with Ducati USA.  We worked together on this bike for the last year .  We scrutinized over every detail including getting graphics like the “Advantage” logo right on the top of the upper fairing.  To make it true Factory Ducati, we ended up painting the blue as to fade it like the factory bike and placing the decal over it.  All of the graphics are under the clear coat, ls were created, sized and printed custom for this bike.  You will not find decals like the “Enel” on the tail, an example of how detailed we needed to be to create this masterpiece.
  • As close to perfect as a motorcycle can be, not even a scratch under the swing arm where bikes typically get dinged when you put it on its rear stand.

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Is this Ducati worth the $50,000 USD Buy-It-Now asking price?  To be honest, I do think its worth that and maybe even a bit more.  Standard Desmosedici's with higher mileage and no evidence of recalls seem to go for about 42-48,000 USD.  The condition of this Desmosedici and the graphics package plus recalls and recent fresh service make me think the price is spot on. Since the actual Casey Stoner MotoGP bikes are commanding bonkers prices at auction, this is probably as close to a Casey Stoner replica as most mere mortals will ever have an opportunity to own.

To me this Desmosedici is a true halo bike, a bike which could be the crown jewel of a collection. I am personally tempted to make an offer for this lovely beastie so..erm...move along now...nothing to see here.

 

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

 

NOTE:  While writing this post a second Desmosedici came up for sale on eBay, so if you are looking for one but don't fancy the Stoner tribute graphics package, maybe check it out here.  Interestingly, the price is right inline with this Stoner replica.

Double Desmo:  Multiple 2008 Ducati Desmosedici D16RR
Aprilia February 4, 2015 posted by

Mad Ape: 2003 Aprilia RSV1000R Colin Edwards Edition

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Up for grabs today is a RSV1000R produced as a tribute to the venerable Colin Edwards. Aside from being one of the most like-able personalities in recent racing history, Colin was also explosively fast and competitive. It is a shame that the last few seasons in MotoGP did not showcase his true talent, yet his absence from the grid is missed all the same. This replica was inspired by the Aprilia RS Cube machine that was raced in MotoGP, and was produced in pretty limited numbers. Somewhere between 450 - 461 were created (numbers vary), and only 50 were imported into the US. This is bike number 45 of 50. Performance wise, the CE machine sported the same track package as the Haga replica, with intake, airbox and injector mods, Akropovic exhaust and computer updates. These are rare and pretty collectible machines - check out the Edwards archives to learn more about previous editions posted on RSBFS.

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2003 Aprilia RSV100R Colin Edwards for sale on eBay

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From the seller:
This is a very nice Aprilia in great running order!! Brand new Michelin tires)New Chain and sprockets less than 1k ago. All fluids changed synthetic Oil new brake fluid-Air cleaner etc. Runs out very strong. Has Colin Edwards 154hp engine and tons of carbon fiber parts factory Akrapovic titanium exhaust sounds awesome. Very fun bike to ride or race. Only 50 were released to the US and only 450 were produced so grab it up for a steal of a price on this Great Italian Beast!!!

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The seller notes some damage to the bike, but no real detail as to the why. It doesn't look terrible in the pictures provided, but all the same let the buyer beware. We don't see these models every day, and given the spec level these are quite the gem in the Aprilia lineup. Besides, this one has only 6,000 miles. Check it out here and revel in the greatness that is Colin Edwards!

MI