Posts by tag: TL1000R

Bimota March 25, 2022 posted by

Tasty Exotic: TL1000R Powered Bimota SB8R

Exotic motorcycles can be polarizing.  For some the cost of admission when new is too high, others will fear service and maintenance woes.  But this Bimota SB8R offers an interesting mix of Italian flair, low production numbers and the reliability and support of an OEM Suzuki engine.

The engine is lifted from a TL1000R so service costs are very low, and an owner can sleep soundly knowing that should an unfortunate even befall the V-Twin, it can be sorted without having to hunt down rare parts.

This particular bike has upgraded lighter wheels, and Arrow exhaust system, a few minor period add ons and low miles.  There are a few questions that need to be raised though.  The seller lists it as a 5 speed, and that is assumed to be a simple clerical error.  The bigger question surrounds the turn signals.  Units installed on the bike are not correct, and two of them are damaged.  It looks like this likely happened while moving the bike around in storage, but it is worth confirming.  Strange that the selling dealer would not at least remove them before the pictures.

From The Seller’s eBay Listing:

2000 Bimota SB8R Motorcycle

Limited-production track ready motorcycle
#3 of around 150 produced total
Aluminum & carbon fiber frame
1,000cc engine producing 135hp and 5 speed manual transmission
3,245 miles shown, but the title is mileage exempt
It’s not everyday that we get in a motorcycle as special as this one, a 2000 Bimota SB8R! MotoeXotica was Missouri’s sole Bimota dealership for many years until the unfortunate bankruptcy of Bimota, thus making this a very special bike for us.

The red paint of this SB8R is in fantastic shape, with only small imperfections, and the carbon fiber is still in tact. The gold wheels are a nice contrast, and are in good shape. The seat has no visible rips or tears. One of the rear turn signals is missing its cover.

Under the seat lies the 135 horsepower 1,000cc engine, mated to a 5 speed manual transmission, which truly makes this bike a rocket. Out back, it also features an Arrow performance exhaust, which gives this bike a truly one of a kind engine note.

This bike is currently located at our facility in St. Louis, Missouri. Current mileage on the odometer shows 3,245 miles. It is sold as is, where is, on a clean and clear, mileage exempt title. GET OUT AND DRIVE!!!

VIN: ZESSB8R0XYR000003

RSBFS posted about his bike in June of 2019 here, and it does not seem that much has changed since that listing.  The $13,900 asking price is in line with what others have been listed for.  Unsure if the time on the market is starting to turn would be buyers off, or if the pool of Bimota buyers is just too small at the moment.  The upgraded wheels is a very expensive and desirable addition, and not really mentioned properly in the listing.

With the sharp rise in price of this era Japanese sport bike one can only wonder if something like this will demand a premium over a similar condition TL1000R.

Tasty Exotic:  TL1000R Powered Bimota SB8R
Bimota August 22, 2021 posted by

When Rare Is Just Too Common: Bimota SB8K Ultimo

Things are always interesting in the world of rare and exotic motorcycles.  There seems to be an endless stream of things to ogle and dream about.  For many the top of the list is Bimota.  The storied Italian brand has always produced lust worthy motorcycles in low volume.  Over the years they have used many different engine configurations, from many different manufactures, so there is something for everyone.  In the late 90s Bimota tool the Suzuki TL1000R V Twin and decided it would be perfect for their new SB8R and slightly more intense SB8RS models.  These bikes featured a unique carbon fiber frame section as well as top tier suspension for the day.  In 2000 Bimota was racing an SB8R in WSBK with Anthony Gobert.  The high water mark of the year was a race win at Philip Island.  To celebrate this success, Bimota released the SB8K as an updated version of the SB8R.

The SB8K was the end of the Suzuki powered Bimota era.  Details are scarce on exactly how many were built, but there is no doubt the production run was in the tens, and not hundreds of bikes built.  To make things even more confusing, Bimota also had a few variants of the SB8K.  The “standard”, Gobert, and Santamonica edition round out the field.  Make no mistake, all of these were rare, expensive and interesting options in period.  One can only imagine how amazing it would have been to source one of these bikes new.  But what might be even more amazing is that it seems that there was a market even higher up the food chain.  Apparently there were people that saw the SB8K as too common, or not focused enough, so the SB8K Ultimo was created.

The aptly named Ultimo was dripping with even more high performance and exotic components.  It was the brainchild of the Japanese importer for Bimota, Redbro Racing.  They had a history of turning the wick up on other Bimota for the Japanese market.  For just over 6 million Yen, you got even better Ohlins forks, upgraded brakes, and a host of internal engine modifications.  The Motor breaths through a Moto Corsa Ti exhaust system that is sure to please the ears.

From the Seller’s eBay listing:

Only 10 SB8K Ultimo bikes were ever built, for the buyer that wanted something very special. This bike has Marchesini magnesium wheels, Brembo mono block brakes, full Ohlins front and rear suspension, Ohlins steering damper. Stack dash, modified ECU, High compression forged pistons, 12:1. High lift cams, Titanium silencers. (moto corsa), Alcantara fabric seat, full carbon body work, tank, sub frame all as standard equipment on this model. The new price when released in Japan was 6,000,000Yen.(39,000pounds) Essentially brand new 22 year old bike, the dash says 38km traveled, but according to Stack, the dash will never read zero as km are added to the dash whilst testing. The Stack dash can be scrolled through many different screens and setting by the pass button on the LHS bar, very cool. I estimate the bike has done 3km. The SB8R isn’t even in the same league as this model. With forks, calipers and wheels alone worth over 10,000Pounds. The bike has been fully serviced and runs like a dream. Send me an email and I can send you a link to watch the bike running on you tube. The bike is located in New Zealand. Included in the buy now price is crating the bike and transport to most major ports. London, LA. etc. Price does not include local import or port charges or insurance. This is a very special, rare bike, running the beautiful TL1000R engine you wont be disappointed adding this one to your collection. It sounds and looks amazing.

In the late 90s and early 2000s it was not uncommon to see owners modifying their vehicles, or well known shops to do a limited run of in house custom builds.  Many of these builds have either not aged well, or have not survived long enough to be collectable.  This example here represents a chance to experience a really interesting period in time again with essentially a brand new bike.  The bike seems perfectly preserved and would be well suited for a static collection, or returned to the road for enjoyment.  The seller appears to be no stranger to the bike, or transporting around the world.  This would be a wonderful benefit to a potential buyer, almost as much as the seller’s offer to crate and ship the bike to your local port.  With anything this rear, it is hard to put an exact value on it.  Currently listed at just under twenty thousand British pounds.  This price point is not for everyone, but when you think about how special this bike is it is hard to think of a better way to spend the money.

When Rare Is Just Too Common:  Bimota SB8K Ultimo
Suzuki June 10, 2021 posted by

Featured Listing: 1999 Suzuki TL1000R

Update 9.24.21: This bike has SOLD! Congratulations to buyer and seller. -dc

Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace will cough up examples of Suzuki’s thundering, hairy-chested v-twin superbike bruiser if you really look, but they’re almost never worth a second glance. Generally, they’re wrecked, stretched, rattle canned or all three, and more often than not have been without a title since the Bush administration. The 1999 Suzuki TL1000R you see here is none of those things. In fact, if you’re looking for one, this might be your stop.

It’s a two-owner bike that has been ridden enough to show it was maintained and the bugs were duly dealt with. It looks clean enough to eat off of, and has been treated to an Ohlins rear damper, in place of the notorious factory piece. The seller says it has Penske springs front and rear. It also has Jardine exhaust cans, switched cooling fans, a Power Commander and a toggle switch for diagnostics. The paperwork for the suspension work is present, and the bike comes with a shop manual.

The TL1000R’s history as a race bike is, excuse the pun, checkered, as it didn’t quite measure up to contemporary Ducatis and Honda’s RC51 when it came time to put up or shut up. But the bikes don’t look like anything else on the road at the time, and are known as wonderful, brawny streetbikes and track toys. There’s more than enough power to get yourself into serious trouble, but none of the peakiness of an inline four.

From the seller:

I have 1999 Suzuki TL1000R I am looking to sell. I am only second owner and previous owner was a Suzuki mechanic so it has been adult owned it’s whole life. I have Ohlin’s dampener with Penske spring in back, and Penske racing springs up front. Jardine pipes, upgraded grips, a toggle switch in back that will read the problem codes as well as an auxiliary switch to keep the fans on while bike is turned off to cool oil. I recently rebuilt the original clutch so that is new. I also installed a new drive shaft seal as well as the pushrod seal (the pushrod seal is from an SV1000 and installed backwards…much better fit than the original part as this was a known oil leak issue). Also included are 2 head gaskets, 2 fuel pumps, a crank case gasket, full additional wiring harness and CPU’s, and a full set of shims for the bike. (not cheap stuff). It has just shy of 29k miles. I also have all original parts for it including the rotary dampener and springs, original muffler and additional items for maintenance. It will come with the full mechanic book as well as paperwork for suspension upgrades. It has been very well taken care of and runs perfectly with the power commander.

Seller Tim is asking $7,000 for this beast, which is an immaculate, two-owner machine that represents the pinnacle of the nameplate.

Featured Listing: 1999 Suzuki TL1000R
Suzuki June 2, 2020 posted by

Featured Listing: 2,600-mile 1999 Suzuki TL1000R

Update 6.20.2020: This bike has SOLD to an RSBFS reader! Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

Back in 1999, the Suzuki TL1000R was full of promise as a Ducati and Honda-fighting superbike weapon. With a new, 135-horsepower v-twin mill, compact dimensions and innovative suspension to keep packaging tight around the big mill. Alas, the TL didn’t live up to Suzuki’s hopes on superbike grids around the world, but it became a cult classic beloved for its torque, unique looks and relative quirkiness.

You won’t see many nice TLs kicking around the local Craigslist, as those who have nice ones tend to hang onto them. Consider this one the exception. A second-year example in the simplest, cleanest yellow livery, it is spotless and ready to ride. It might not carry the pedigree that the Honda RC-51 earned under the likes of Colin Edwards and Joey Dunlop, but that shouldn’t be a detraction, and it will always draw a crowd at the local bike night.

From the seller:

1999 Suzuki TL1000R

2600 miles, just serviced at MSP Cycle in Atlanta.

I’m the second owner and bought the bike in 2012. Everything is stock except the Yoshimura pipes.

Never dropped or abused and runs perfect. The bike is located at my office in Doraville, Georgia. Can be seen anytime and I am happy to assist with inspection or shipping.

$6,900

The Yoshimura pipes are an awesome addition that will fully unleash the v-twin’s signature snarl. With everything else as it left the factory and so few miles, this TL is the perfect candidate for a periodic weekend mount and conversation starter.

Featured Listing: 2,600-mile 1999 Suzuki TL1000R
Bimota April 27, 2020 posted by

Hangar Queen – 2000 Bimota SB8R with just 1,560 miles !

Bimota’s SB8R combined Suzuki TL1000 power with a hybrid alloy/carbon chassis, and presented the company with a WSBK win in 2000.  This example was parked in an aircraft hangar for many years but shows none the worse for it.

2000 Bimota SB8R for sale on eBay

Bimota saw the potential in Suzuki’s liter twin and worked their now-typical magic of better handling and lighter weight.  The 996cc mill is canted slightly further forward and equipped with Marelli fuel injection and 59mm throttle bodies.  Along with Bimota’s own exhaust, the package rates 134 hp.  The chassis uses carbon frame connectors and alloy spars, with a self-supporting carbon seat console.  After Paoli 46mm forks were installed in an adjustable headstock, Bimota found room for a more conventional Öhlins shock on the right side of the engine, with a healthy linkage.  Weight was below 400 lbs. dry, and despite the bulbous looks from the front was quite narrow.

Back in a corner behind the King Air or turbine single ( looks like it’s in a real toy shop now ) this Bimota waited for a break in the action that came too late.  Still it was protected from the elements, and shows like a virtually new bike.  The all metal cam drive could deal with the waiting, but all new expendables will be required.  After a thorough going over, the next owner will have real time machine.  Details from the eBay auction:

Stored in a private collection the last 10 years, 1,560 miles from new, $7k in upgrades including Arrow carbon fiber exhaust system, many billet pieces, upgrades to fuel system, new battery, workshop manual, factory cover, we have factory exhaust. Receipts for all upgrades. Bike sounds incredible. When first bought no expense was spared to make this Bimota supersonic and address any factory issues, many racing spec parts were sourced and installed. Look over the receipts for specifics. Bike has sat in a hanger for 10 years – it’s not detailed it will clean up as new.

Bimota dialed in every target where the TL-1000R had missed the mark, though it cost just about double.  Racing helped the road bike, as the exhaust was re-designed after endurance race failures.  The new owner will have to peek around the big carbon fresh air ducts until the thumbs memorize the switchgear, but big torque will make pulling out to pass a memorable experience.

-donn

Hangar Queen – 2000 Bimota SB8R with just 1,560 miles !
Suzuki March 30, 2020 posted by

Featured Listing: 1999 Suzuki TL-1000R

Update 7.7.2020: This bike has SOLD! Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

It was supposed to be a World Superbike-dominating Ducati killer. That never came to pass for the 1999 Suzuki TL1000R, but the bike’s sweet engine gained it a huge cult following. With a few choice modifications, TLs can be fantastic weekend mounts, and have an extra edge of panache that Gixxers lack. 

1999 Suzuki TL1000R for sale on eBay

This 1999 Suzuki TL1000R comes from a fastidious mechanic whose CV includes stints for Roland Sands and Kevin Schwantz. The list of modifications is long and impressive, and includes a Yamaha R1 front suspension and brake setup, as well as a Bitubo shock to replace the weird stock rotary damper. It also sports a new-used engine with just 6,000 miles on it. 

That last point is an important one, as this TL shows a scarcely believable 118,000 miles on the clock. That figure points to the stoutness of Suzuki’s stock bits, but must have been backbreaking for the big bike’s owner. 

From the eBay listing

1999 TL1000R.

I am the second owner.

Fresh light restoration TLR. I’ve built bikes for Roland Sands, and suzuki racebikes for Kevin Schwantz, so this one is done RIGHT.

Dash and title show 118k miles. BUT:

Every nut and bolt on this bike has been touched and cleaned, replaced, or refurbished. Sure, I could have replaced the gauges with some low mile unit and misrepresented, but I feel like being honest here shows how well this bike has been cared for even before I got it and cleaned it up.

Complete R1 wheel, brake, and fork/triple swap. Forks are freshly rebuild with upgraded springs and top of the line seals and fluid. Lower offset on the R1 triples makes this bike feel 100 lighter than standard.

Ohlins steering damper

Woodcraft clipons

Brand new Bitubo aftermarket shock. (It’s eyetalian)

Brand new wheel bearings in the wheels, and all balls steering head bearings.

New swingarm bearings.

New (used) complete engine with 6000 miles.

New M4 complete stainless exhaust with carbon cans.

Nice Michelin tires.

Braided brake lines

Fresh paint with new factory decals under the clear coat.

Zero gravity windscreen

New chain and sprockets

New Barnett clutch

New air filter

Power Commander

I know it’s a lot of money for a TL however, if a brand new showroom bike is a 10, and every abused, neglected TL on Craigslist is a 5, this one is a solid 8.75. It does show its age and mileage in a few areas buts it’s very very clean.

As he acknowledges, it’s a big ask for a 21-year-old Japanese sportbike, but they aren’t making more TLs, and this one is set up exactly as it should be for years of enjoyment. If you’re looking for an escape from the scourge that is COVID-19, what better way to isolate yourself than on a 130-horsepower v-twin superbike? 

Featured Listing: 1999 Suzuki TL-1000R
Bimota June 22, 2019 posted by

A Better Italian Twin? 2000 Bimota SB8R for Sale

Update 6.20.2019: We last saw this bike in March of 2018 and bidding ended just shy of $10k. It’s back on eBay with a buy-it-now of $17,875. Links updated. -dc

Ducati has come a long way in terms of service costs and reliability. The four-valve Bologna twins have always offered good power and a bulging midrange, sure. But you really had to pay for it in the era of the 916. These days, 15,000 mile intervals between major services help keep costs down and the bikes on the road instead of in the shop but, back in the late 1990s, if you wanted a sports v-twin you could ride every weekend, you were probably looking at something like the Suzuki TL1000R. The duck-billed styling may not have appealed to everyone, the bike was a bit porky, and handling was a bit variable, owing to the rotary damper, but the engine was powerful, flexible, and made the right thumpy big-twin noises with a set of aftermarket cans fitted. That fact wasn’t lost on Bimota when they went looking to build the SB8R their own v-twin superbike, although I’d bet it was more likely that Ducati wasn’t interested in selling them any 4V twins, since I doubt Bimota was really worried much about reliability and cost…

Of course, for a while there, it seemed like the liquid-cooled, four valve, 996cc Suzuki v-twin was the small-block Chevy of the era, since it was used by Suzuki, Cagiva, and Bimota, and probably even a few others I’ve forgotten, and got stuffed into everything from sportbikes to roadsters to sport-touring bikes. Backed by a six-speed gearbox, the 138hp engine was plenty powerful and very reliable, especially compared to the charismatic, but sometimes temperamental Ducati unit. The biggest issues with the TL1000S and TL1000R were their slight weight problem and the packaging problem “solved” by an innovative but underdeveloped rotary rear damper that had a tendency to overheat and stop damping, leading to the lethal reputation of the earlier TL-S.

Bimota solved both problems. Reducing weight was pretty simple, since that’s always been Bimota’s thing anyway. It helped that the rear subframe didn’t need to be engineered with a passenger in mind, and the bike was otherwise liberally sprinkled with lightweight materials. Of course, their other thing has always been frames, and this one is deserving of the Bimota name: it’s an exotic composite unit, assembled from aluminum beam and carbon fiber elements for maximum strength and minimum weight. That new frame allowed a traditional shock to sit alongside the engine, like a Panigale, and solved the packaging issues. Styling is… different. One of the trademarks of a sports v-twin is the overall narrowness of the package, a result of having only two pistons. Sure, one of them is usually thrashing away at 4,000 feet-per-minute, pointed at your crotch, but that’s a small price to pay for for torque, aerodynamics, and character. But somehow the SB8R is positively bulbous, although it does make much better use of the original Suzuki headlamp. It’s a good-looking bike, but those intake tubes that snake over the tank from their inlets at the top edge of the fairing completely block your view of the controls, so new riders may fumble around a bit and errantly honk, cancel turn-signals, or shut the bike off until they memorize their location.

From the original eBay listing: 2000 Bimota SB8R for Sale

Limited-production track ready motorcycle. #3 of around 150 produced total. Aluminum & carbon fiber frame. 1,000cc engine producing 135hp and 5 speed manual transmission. 3,245 miles shown, but the title is mileage exempt

“1,000cc engine producing 135hp and 5 speed manual transmission. Revs kinda high on the freeway, but it’s Italian!” Obviously, this is a dealer reselling the bike, but you think they could at least get the basics right… Anyway, aside from the fact that we’re apparently missing a gear in the gearbox, it’s mostly what you’d expect from a 3,245 mile bike, and includes a set of Arrow carbon cans, along with a few anodized accessories of dubious taste. The broken turn signals are a bit of a concern, since they appear mismatched, are non-standard, and could easily have been repaired before posting the bike up. It’s a minor issue, but it suggests that maybe this bike isn’t quite as carefully preserved as it appears. Bidding is up just north of $7,000 with another day left on the auction. Mid to late 90s Bimotas are currently at a low ebb in terms of value, so if you aren’t afraid to buy a bike that might need a bit of attention to turn it into something that really performs as it should have straight from the factory, or if you’re just looking for some very cool garage jewelry on the the [relatively] cheap, now is the time to buy.

-tad

A Better Italian Twin? 2000 Bimota SB8R for Sale
Bimota September 12, 2018 posted by

Artful Dodger: 2000 Bimota SB8R

The masters from Rimini were on a roll: From the tube-framed madness from the cusp of the 1980s to the aluminum beams as the 1990s approached, Bimota has always been in the frame game. But unlike many bespoke frame makers who concentrated only on the chassis, these Italian artists disguised as motorcycle makers ensured that their bikes handled the stage of the visceral world as well as the paved one. As such, Bimotas continue to delight with their strong visual presence, coupled with legendary handling and performance. All of this comes at a price, however – making riding a Bimota a relatively exclusive affair.

2000 Bimota SB8R for sale on eBay

Introduced in the years following the V-Due debacle, the SB8R returned to Bimota’s more successful business plan of stuffing a 3rd-party engine and transmission into a motorcycle of their own design. In this case, power is courtesy of Suzuki’s ripping TL1000R v-twin. This Japanese homage to Ducati’s 916 mill is well known for being potent across the entire face of the tach, excelling at a high RPM rush not unlike that of inline fours. Devoid of the rest of the TL package (including the funky rotary damper), Bimota engineered a beast of a bike that was lighter and more precise than the Suzuki that donated its guts. It also looked far less porky then the Japanese offering.

From the seller:
This is an excellent original SB8R in the configuration it left the factory with a couple of small modifications (improvements). The light switch was modified so the headlight can be turned off, foot-pegs were replaced with European fixed position pegs, and the fueling system was modified to make it more rideable in street configuration.The fairings have original paint, carbon fiber parts have no cracks, all lights, turn-signals are original and working, tires have little wear, although they are at least 2 years old, so may want to consider replacing. Shocks don’t show signs of needing seals, engine has no leaks, runs great, once it warms up (these are cold-blooded beasts). Brakes have plenty of wear left, recommend oil change for the engine, something I intended to do, but haven’t made time. Bike is kept on battery tender to keep the (lithium) battery up.This is probably as close a time capsule as you’ll find for an SB8R.

More from the seller:
This bike was purchased new from Ducati Bellevue on 3/2/2002. The 1st owner was a local Seattle aerospace engineer who rarely rode the bike. There were only 2 owners prior to my purchasing it in 2015.

The 1st owner made only one modification to this machine. His one mod was having a custom fuel trimmer or potentiometer made to work with the existing wiring harness. These bikes are known to have fueling issues due to the massive throttle bodies and this is where the potentiometer helps out. Unfortunately the potentiometer is old technology and the adjustment range was limited. The second owner installed a PCIII that was tuned by Nels at 2 Wheel Dyno Works in Woodinville, WA.

PCIII was installed by second owner to permanently wash out some of the fueling issues that was typical of the SB8R model and its huge throttle bodies. This bike accelerates easier through the rev range than before. The fuel trimmer that had been installed by the first owner was only finite and could not adjust or reach some of these issues in the rev range. This modification alone makes it rideable if you get stuck in traffic.

Braided steel clutch and brake lines (stock ones were rubber).

As mentioned above, the first owner added an Out-of-production Evoluzione SB8R fuel trimmer provided by a Bimota enthusiast in Colorado. This unit is more precisely calibrated with nearly infinite settings between 0 and 999. The Bimota trimmer has 8 positions total.

The arrow exhaust on the bike has been cored for better performance and sound. The result is outstanding in that it essentially replicates full racing pipes with much better performance and sound.

Always assembled with top-shelf suspension and brakes – Paioli and Brembo in this case – the SB8R reeks of class. From the huge snorkels that force-feed the air box hiding under the tank cover (the actual tank is the back half of that structure and extends downward centering/lowering the mass), to the way the huge exhaust cans poke out of the back seat, to the carbon-composite join plates of the frame to the exquisite swingarm with the embossed logo, everything looks expensive – and indeed it was a far more expensive motorcycle than its Japanese counterpart when new.

This particular bike looks to be in nice shape. With only 5,000 miles under the wheels, it has a reasonable number of miles and has been ridden without having been used/abused/trashed. There is plenty of evidence to know that the TL platform holds up well, making this one barely broken in. The haters will comment on the picture quality which makes it difficult to tell if we are looking at reflection or imperfection in the bodywork, but what we can see looks good. The seller appears to be knowledgeable about the machine and has 100% positive feedback, so I’m sure questions posed by serious buyers would be answered to satisfaction. With an opening ask of only $5,000, this Bimota is starting this auction in the basement. Interested parties should get in on the action now. This is the TL that Suzuki should have made; we’re just lucky that the boys from Rimini were still around to give the TL motor some love. Good luck, and be sure and share your thoughts in the comments.

MI

Artful Dodger: 2000 Bimota SB8R