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Ducati December 10, 2022 posted by

Lone Star Strada – 1992 Ducati 851

Ah, the Ducati 851. Back to our regularly scheduled program. Aside from the green frame 750SS, the 851 is THE bike that put Ducati on the superbike racing map. Taking the base Pantah rubber band motor and dipping it into a vat of fuel injection, four-valve heads and liquid cooling, the 851 invented the modern distinction between Ducati Supersport and Superbike models. It also cleaned up at the racetrack, thanks to rules that allowed two cylinder race bikes to enjoy a capacity advantage over the predominant Japanese fours. Today, these models continue to make excellent street bikes, with decent, usable power across the rev range. They are also gaining in collector value, although the homologation models and specials (think SP models for racing) will usually lead the trend. Today’s example is a bread-and-butter Strada, the base model for the series. Displacing a true 851cc (unlike the next-generation 888 motor in the SP), the Strada is geometrically identical to the faster and more expensive models in the lineup, and includes a second seat and fold-down hand-holds for a passenger.

1992 Ducati 851 Strada for sale on eBay

From the seller:
Own a piece of Ducati history with the Ducati 851 Strada!

1992 was the last year of the 851 before the 888 came along.

The Ducati 851 single-handedly made Ducati relevant in racing again. It features the famous trellis frame, twin-cam four-valve Desmo heads, fuel injection, and is water-cooled. Showa adjustable front suspension and Brembo brakes front and rear made this bike ride and brake like no other.

More from the seller:
This bike has been in hibernation for a few years, but it is now a runner and a rider.

The bike shows 11,528 miles on the odometer and is being sold as-is.
There are a handful of things we would recommend it will need to get it entirely up to snuff:
– Coolant flush
– Brake fluid flush
– Oil and filter change
– Timing belts
– New drive chain
– New tires

The odometer doesn’t work – it stopped working approximately 500-600 miles before storage

This particular example of the last generation of 851 looks to be complete, save for the pillion cover to make the 851 appear to be a faux solo seater. There is some patina across this one as well, indicating that it may not have been as loved as the specimen example currently parked up on a pedestal at the Barber museum. It also has a pretty unknown history, the seller claiming this is a runner and a rider – but then offers a lengthy list of major service items. To top it off, the 11,528 miles listed on the odo is known to be incorrect, given that the mileage counter gave up the ghost “before it was put into storage a few years ago.” Despite this, the bike still looks good, and is quite presentable for the age.

Apart from the service requirements and age-related ouches around the bodywork, the 851 remains a solid performer both on the road as well as in resale markets. The Strada specification tempers the growth some, but the rising tide of valuation lifts all boats. The seller is asking $14,500 for this one, which is definitely on the high side of what we have seen for the model. But the seller is also open to offers, so there may yet be an opportunity for interested buyers. The bike is located in Texas, and the pictures show California plates. Look closely at the pictures, do your homework, and be sure and jump over to the auction to check out all of the details. Good Luck!!

MI

Lone Star Strada – 1992 Ducati 851
Bimota October 20, 2022 posted by

Oktoberfest! NEW 2003 Bimota 500 V-Due

What a week it has been on RSBFS! It’s hard to say what could top Monday’s Honda CB1100R, Tuesday’s Suzuki RGB500 or Wednesday’s Yoshimura Tornado S-1, but I think a BRAND NEW Bimota v-Due with ZERO MILES qualifies as a contender. Interested? Read On!

2003 Bimota 500 V-Due with Zero miles for sale on eBay!

For those unfamiliar with the v-Due, you are looking at the only Bimota motorcycle ever to be powered by an engine of their own make. While every other Bimota utilized donor engines and transmissions housed in one of their frames, the v-Due was 100% Bimota born. And not content to be a me too company, Bimota shot for the stars with an ambitious and never been done before 500cc vee twin two stroke with direct fuel injection. The goal was to clean up the two stroke’s thirsty and polluting nature, while benefiting from the power of the smaller package. The reality is that this was an early attempt at success, as fueling issues, reliability and seizing were common. Sadly Bimota never had the opportunity for a second chance at that glory; fortunes quickly waned, operating capital vanished, and the company went under.

From the seller:
Brand new Bimota 500 V-Due with 0 km/ 0 miles from a collection in Original condition.

500 cc, 105 hp, two-stroke street legal racing machine!
Stunning design paired with breathtaking technology with attention to detail manufactory built.
Endless carbon parts, such as the self-supporting one!! Carbon rear monocoque that is second to none.

Furthermore, many milled aluminum parts
46mm Paioli chassis with adjustable rebound and compression damping at the front
Öhlins dampers at the rear designed in the sensational push-rod spring system.
Frame made of aluminum oval profiles for the highest torsional rigidity
Aluminum swing arm with a passage for the rear silencer and an integrated Bimota badge
Aluminum alloy Antera wheels
Complete braking system from Brembo and much more… await you here with the exclusive Bimota 500 V-Due.

Dry weight only approx 145 kilograms.
World’s first 2-stroke engine with electronic direct injection.
Engine: Water-cooled, two-cylinder, two-stroke, 90-degree V engine.
No scratches, no damage!

More from the seller:
– 1 of 300 builds worldwide
– 1 owner
– German papers (vehicle registration and vehicle registration possible)
– 2x Bimota keys
– Original operating instructions
– Original sales brochure

Bimota actually attempted to buy back all of the delivered v-Due models in order to rectify the problems, but as stated above, the company did not survive the debacle. Post receivership, some bikes were re-worked with conventional carbs and sold as Evoluzion models. These are usually the ones you see with more significant mileage on them. But today’s ONE OWNER machine has a claimed ZERO miles, and as such represents a perfect time capsule of this stunning model that (briefly) shook the world.

Located in Germany, pictures show an unbelievable example of one of the rarest, and most mysterious of the bikes from the legendary firm from Rimini, Italy. This bike looks to be absolutely sano – so much that I can practically smell the Cosmoline protectant through the pictures. Everything appears to be what it should – brand new, with no visible damage. Nothing but acres and acres of carbon fiber. Am I the only one that can stare at pictures of this fascinating machine all day? From the beautifully machined aluminum to the precision welding, from the triangulated and asymmetrical swingarm with embossed logo to the offset rear shock, this bike exudes trick details like few others.

Financially, the v-Due sunk the company known as Bimota. And while they were able to rise again, they never again attempted so ambitious a project as the v-Due. That makes the v-Due a true unicorn model, and a one owner, zero mileage example is an otherworldly find. Pricing, as could be expected, is worthy of the example: a Buy It Now format for $49,900 USD. We don’t see these bikes often, but somehow that price does not feel out of place or wildly high for what is on offer. You can drool over all of the details here, and Good Luck!!

MI

Oktoberfest!  NEW 2003 Bimota 500 V-Due
Suzuki October 15, 2022 posted by

Force Fed Frenzy – 1983 Suzuki XN85 TURBO

Hey Buck Rogers: your bike is ready. At least it was back in 1983, in the form of the Suzuki XN85. What is the XN85? It is 85 horsepower (at the crank, at least) of 650cc fuel injected and turbocharged goodness, and is arguably the very rarest of the factory boosted bikes on offer. It also looks like a mutated Katana, and is one of the sweetest handling sport bikes from the era.

1983 Suzuki XN85 Turbo for sale on eBay

Unlike the more popular Honda CX500 or CX650 liquid-cooled twins, the Suzuki XN85 was based on an air-cooled 650cc inline four. More similar to the Honda was electronic fuel injection technology, ensuring the engine always has an adequate supply of fuel for the specific atmospheric conditions. Force-fed motors are very sensitive to lean fueling conditions, and the specifically calibrated injection allows for proper compensation regardless of the level of boost. And while Honda went with liquid cooling, Suzuki opted for air cooling with oil cooling enhancements (including oil squirters to cool the back side of the piston). This concept was, in fact, the first step in the air/oil cooling journey that enabled the mighty GSX-R just a few years later. And while the bike screamed TURBO from every angle (including OBRUT from the front), the reality of performance was not *quite* up to the hype.

From the seller:
This is a NO RESERVE auction fora 1983 Suzuki XN85 Turbo.
The odometer reads 15,570 kilometers which is just shy of 9,675 miles on this perfect XN85.
This is a very rare bike with less than 1,153 XN85 motorcycles produced from 1983-1985.
I purchased this bike out of Canada about 2 years ago. This bike will be sold on a Bill of sale.

The previous owner ran the bike over 30km before I took delivery of it. They stated that the bike ran, and everything worked properly. When I purchased the bike, I put it directly in to my collection and it has been kept in air-conditioned storage.

The silver paint with the blue and red graphics looks flawless on this beautiful motorcycle.

The only apparent modification is a set of stainless steel braided front brake lines. Everything else appears to be OEM.

More from the seller:
This bike is in immaculate condition, there are very small imperfections on this motorcycle I will list below:

-The plastic surround panels around the cockpit show surface scuffs.

-The front master cylinder and clutch perch show some paint flaking.

-The top triple clamp shows some minor scratches from a key chain.

Otherwise, this very rare bike is in beautiful original condition.
This XN85 Turbo will be a fantastic addition to any high caliber motorcycle collection.

If you have any questions, or would like some pictures of something particular, feel free to reach out to me.

Unlike the Honda and the Yamaha Turbo bikes, the XN85 was an unabashed sport bike (albeit one that weighed 550-ish pounds when fueled up and ready to ride). The conventional fork was preload adjustable, and incorporated an anti-dive mechanism as well as a GP-inspired 16″ front wheel. The latter is not ideal in terms of tire choice today, but the combination worked well to provide both higher speed stability as well as directional change agility. Out back was Suzuki’s Full Floater single shock, also adjustable for preload. The riding position is sporty (but not too extreme), and aside from the question of turbo lag (i.e. when will the boost build), the Suzuki is a very sporting package that inspires confidence.

Perhaps the most unloved of the Turbo bikes, the XN85 was imported to the United States in few numbers by Suzuki, and who sold even fewer than expected. This makes it rare. And pricing, as a result, has slowly grown in value. This is not on the order of a homologation machine or even a small-bore smoker when it comes to valuation and future prospects, but over time we have definitely seen a gain. Today’s example is a Canadian bike that has been imported into the US by an individual. It has apparently not been ridden since importing, and there is no mention of registration. Still, it looks to be very clean apart from a few issues noted by the seller. Interest is quite high on this one – the auction started in the basement and is nearing $7k at time of writing, so it will be very interesting to see where this one ends up. You can check out all of the details here, and Good Luck!!

MI

Force Fed Frenzy – 1983 Suzuki XN85 TURBO
Ducati July 7, 2022 posted by

Number 1 in our Hearts: 1993 Ducati 888 SPO

This auction ended early, before we could post – but we are sharing the the content for our avid readers. Just goes to show that the best rare bikes can go quickly! – MI

It’s red. It has low miles and in great looking condition. It has the “I’m #1” plate boldly emblazoned on the tail. And it’s a 888cc, four valve, fuel injected, liquid cooled Ducati from the era when they owned WSBK Superbike racing. Did I mention that it is rare and one of the more collectable Ducatis? Yeah, it’s all that.

1993 Ducati 888 SPO for sale on eBay

The mighty Ducati 888 was a serious homologation machine – on many fronts. Born of the ground breaking 851, the motive power behind the 888 was an evolution of the previous desmoquattro. In fact, the entire 888 was a subtle evolution of the world-beating 851, ensuring maximum performance on the racetrack. As such the 888 was offered as a street bike for homologation purposes – but in several different forms. The SPO that we see here today was offered specifically for the North American market, as Ducati eyed a dominance of the US in addition to owning the high-speed circuits of Europe.

From the seller:
1993 DUCATI 888 SPO, Rare limited Import, only Approx. 150 were imported into the USA, according to personnel at Ducati USA, all 1993 888 imported were SPO’s. Bike is all stock , no modifications. Bike was stored for 10 years between 2010 & 2020, with original owner putting 2786 miles on it. In Nov 2020, bike received a $2k full service at Desmo sports in SF California, including New Cam belts, oil & filters, new front and rear Rossi 2 tires, Battery, plugs, replaced coolant, new rear shock damper, front brake switch, rebuilt clutch slave cylinder, and all Misc gaskets and seals needed. Bike has since been on Display unused in San Jose California , where it is located. The bike is showing slightly over 2800 miles and is in great condition for a 27 year old bike, but has usual small marks and scratches from display and its age. It has a clear California title, and comes with original tool kit and owners Manual.

The opportunity to own a bone stock 888 SPO with fewer than 3,000 miles does not come often. This bike has seen a full maintenance refit only 2 years ago, and has been sitting idle since by way of a display model. It is based in sunny California, not that the abundance of riding days has added anything to the mileage tally. Nearly 30 years on the big triple 8 continues to impress with its classic silhouette, booming exhaust note, exceptional brakes and vaunted chassis stability. This one is not cheap (BIN is set at $22.5), but we don’t see them like this often. Check out all of the details here, and Good Luck!!

MI

Number 1 in our Hearts: 1993 Ducati 888 SPO
Ducati April 27, 2022 posted by

Quattordici – 1990 Ducati 851 Strada

Ducati 851 for sale

Update 4.27.2022: We last saw this 851 in May of last year and now it’s back on eBay with fresh pictures as well. Current bid is $8,000 and the reserve is met. 4 days remain on the auction. Links updated. -dc

What a wild spring time we are having here at RSBFS! There appears to be a nearly inexhaustible supply of rare Ducati 851 examples in all different conditions and price points. We’ve posted so many of these lately that I’m tempted to cut and paste the historic details on the model from earlier posts, but I’ll spare you the lazy journalism. These bikes are cool enough to talk about over and over and over again. So without furthering any ado, let’s dive into this 1990 Ducati 851.

1990 Ducati 851 Strada for sale on eBay

The 851 is an iconic model simply because it began the lineage of the modern day Ducati Superbike. From the early days of the singles, through the era of the bevels, right into the Pantah era, Ducatis were defined by the 2-valve desmo actuation and for being air cooled (simple and light). The 851 threw out all off that and more by plonking a unique 4-valve desmo head (based on a 1970s University thesis, and with some help from Cosworth) atop a new barrel structure that was liquid cooled, allowing for tighter tolerances and far more heat dissipation. These two elements were maximized via the use of additional new technology – fuel injection. The result was 105 HP (power increased over the years) at higher RPMs than previous models, and with a willing chassis and good aero the 851 was born. And with it, the ground work for more than a decade of dominance in WSBK.

From the seller:
1990 851
Vin ZDM1HB6R2LB001226
Engine HB6L001286

Beautiful Ducati 851

Barely ridden since I got it a few years ago.
Idled often and kept on battery tender.
New battery
Fresh gas
Sorry no service history other than the gentleman I bought it from few years ago had his mechanic go through it thoroughly.
Most ducati folks like to do their own maintenance as it’s fairly easy so you’d probably want to do fluids, look at belts, tires, chain.
Fires right up, idles great, drives, shifts, brakes, lights work… all good! Just went for a quick ride, love this bike but downsizing and this one needs a new home with someone to ride it more!

Only thing I notice is the rear brake light does not brighten when depressing the rear brake pedal. Probably an easy fix. The front brake lever does activate the brake light.

No mirrors on this bike but I may have an extra set from a 900ss I have. Negotiable on including these.
Bike has usual nicks and scratches, but no dents or dings on tank. Note the bottom section of one fairing has a spot that is chipped/scratched. Zoom in on the pic. Not noticeable when fairing is on bike. Bike could use a good cleaning. I’ve always kept indoors.

Please look at pics and examine closely. I’m happy to chat or take closer up pics of anything.

Today’s model is the Strada – meaning street. This is the lowest spec of the 851 class, not to damn it with faint praise. It is simply the most comment variant, which includes a passenger pillion and associated hardware. In fact, all the 851 examples posted on RSBFS in the last month have been the Strada edition. This particular bike has higher mileage than its posted peers (21,000+ claimed), and like most 30 year old motorcycles it has experienced some mods and mishaps. On the mods front I spy a tinted windscreen and non-factory handgrips. More concerning is the lack of mirrors (and why). The rest of the bike looks presentable and the plastics appear to be in good shape, although there is some weathering of the black parts such as the forks, top clamp, and engine cases.

The seller notes that this bike has not been ridden much as of late, and there is a lack of service records. The oil in the sight glass does appear dark and in need of a change, but color is rarely an accurate indicator. Belts should be done as much as for time as miles, and would be high on my list of to-dos. While this is a doable chore for the home mechanic, it is a bit more involved than on your average 2-valve Ducati thanks to the extra systems in the way. Valve adjustments can also be done by the home mechanic, but you will need tools specific for retrieving and measuring the shims, as well as a way to obtain the necessary-sized shims to complete the job. This one is being offered as a Buy It Now of $12,500, with the seller open to offers. That is a strong price considering some of the others that we have seen recently, but the good news is that the healthy supply allows for some shopping around. Check out all of the details here, and Good Luck!!

MI

Quattordici – 1990 Ducati 851 Strada
MV Agusta March 22, 2022 posted by

Living With a Supermodel: 2013 MV Agusta F4

It is hardly a surprise to find that the MV Agusta F4 was voted as the most beautiful motorcycle by multiple publications. After all, this bike’s father was Massimo Tamburini, whose previous offspring with Ducati included the gorgeous 916/996/998 series. So same superstar father, but different Italian mother in the form of MV Agusta.

2013 MV Agusta F4 for sale on eBay

Much has been said about the fabulous F4, which relaunched the MV Agusta brand with power, performance and style. With design by Tamburini, engine design assisted by the Ferrari Formula 1 racing team, top level components in the form of Ohlins and Brembo, and innovative features such as variable length intake runners to maximize top end power AND lower RPM response. The F4 was exactly the high-end eye candy you would expect from an up-scale brand such as MV Agusta, and it spawned more that a dozen offshoots in terms of limited edition models – even though the base F4 was suitably rare to see on the streets.

From the seller:
This 2013 MV Agusta F4 is an original. The owner has had it for 5+ years. The vehicle runs great.

Bike has been recently tuned up as of 02/2022. Has only 350 total miles.

If this were my bike, I would give it the nickname of “Rapunzel,” for it would appear the the former owners locked her away in a tower. The odometer reads but a paltry 350 miles since new, which was back in 2013. That is 9 long years with very, very little riding done. This can certainly help explain the exceptional condition the bike is in – just drool over the pictures on offer! There is not a lot of detail on this bike in the text, but you can check out all of the details here. Good Luck!!

MI

Living With a Supermodel: 2013 MV Agusta F4
Ducati March 4, 2022 posted by

Understated: 1990 Ducati 851 SP2

The Ducati 851 as a general model launched the Italian manufacturer into WSBK super stardom. Instantly competitive on the racetrack, the 851 began a run of championship titles and spawned a new line of track-worthy superbikes for Bologna (a trend that continues in both WSBK and MotoGP to this day). The 851 started it all by ushering in a new era of liquid cooling, 4-valve desmo heads and fuel injection, all wrapped in the instantly recognizable trellis frame. But today’s bike, a rare SP2 model, started yet another Ducati trend by upping the ante from the standard Strada base model and introducing a larger capacity engine under the covers: the mighty 888. Sure, the bodywork says 851, but this was no ordinary 851.

1990 Ducati 851 SP2 for sale on eBay

While the triple 8 bowed in showrooms alongside the base 851 in 1992, the top spec 851 already proved the value of the motor in 1990. And by stuffing the bigger motor in the 851-branded bike, the SP model allowed for homologation – and therefore became a valid entry in WSBK competition (won in 1990 by Raymond Roche). The SP2 was more than just an 851 with a bigger (better) motor. The transmission more closely resembled the close-ratio unit found on the 851 Superbike Kit update, suspension was upgraded to higher quality Ohlins units front and rear, front brakes were upgraded to cast iron floating rotors, and the single seat tail section was suspended by an aluminum subframe. All told, the dual injector 888 roared and snarled its way to a stout 115 HP.

From the seller:
You are bidding on a 1990 Ducati 851 SP2 it is estimated that Ducati only produced 400-425 units of the SP2 model, this is example is #390. Throughout the run of the 851 and 888 Ducati released five special production runs designed for homologation purposes; The second model (SP2) was introduced in 1990 and came equipped with the legendary 888 engine, fuel injection, and Ohlins suspension. The SP2 was also equipped with many other special model features, below this description I have listed all of the special features the SP2 models were equipped with. This particular 851 SP2 model is in all original condition with the exception of the Termignoni exhaust pipes, and has an exceptionally low 6526 kilometers (4059miles) on the odometer. But please feel free to read more about the specifics of this bike and look at the pictures for verification.

More from the seller:
All of the body panels are in excellent condition, there no cracks or any paint nicks anywhere. The white frame does have some very faint cracking from age but no major chips. Overall the motorcycle is a 9.5 out of 10 cosmetically. Mechanically the bike runs and rides perfect, there are no oil leaks anywhere and all of the engine paint is in good condition. All of the electrical components work as they should; lights, blinkers, horn, speedo, tach, temp gauge, all work properly. The bike just had a full service tune up so mechanically everything was inspected and replaced if necessary with original Ducati parts.

When new – and if you could find one – you would expect to pay just on the other side of 20 large bills (MSRP) for an SP2. Today the market remains strong for these remarkable rarities; especially one as clean and low mileage as today’s find. Prospective bidders should note the lack of a 17 digit VIN, indicating this is an imported bike; the Veglia speedo is marked for KMH only. For states with a 25-year rule, registration is likely possible – but buyers are cautioned to do research for your own locale. And registration is important, as who wouldn’t want to fire up this bad boy and do the needful? Check out all of the details here, as bidding has been aggressive and the reserve still in place at $18k. Good Luck!!

MI

Understated: 1990 Ducati 851 SP2
Honda March 1, 2022 posted by

All The Torques: 1983 Honda CX650 Turbo

Straight out of Tron came an interesting offramp in the history of motorcycle performance development. The early 1980s were highlighted by many advances and technological achievements, but few were as glorious as the turbo. All four Japanese motorcycle manufacturers jumped on the boosted bandwagon, certain that this was the Next Big Thing. Marketing and graphics were all about the Turbo (or TURBO, or Turbo!, or even obruT in Suzuki’s case), with the race not necessarily being who could build the better or faster bike, but rather who could cram more Turbo badges on their vehicle. Honda, in their race to over-engineering everything, definitely won the battle of the badges. But this offramp turned out to be a mere cul-de-sac, and with a whoosh the Turbo era was over before most of the bikes were even sold.

1983 Honda CX650 Turbo for sale on eBay

Of the era, the 1983 Honda CX650 was perhaps the most refined of the Turbo machines. The only bike to enjoy a 2nd generation, the 1983 model differed substantially from the previous year’s CX500, and was overall more rideable and predictable. But the CX650 highlighted much of what was wrong with this direction in boosted power; it was big, heavy, complex and frightfully expensive in comparison to normally aspirated machines of similar (or better) performance. And while the CX650 Turbo is still known as the roll-on-king – showcasing its ability to produce substantial power at lower RPMs for highway-friendly acceleration – the market has yet to appreciate what these bikes are all about. They are rare because they did not sell. They did not sell because they were odd, and the tradeoff in oddity did not equate to performance. Despite the rarity in numbers, these bikes fizzle on the collector side. Market value is part rarity (supply), and a large part irrational lust. The heart wants what the heart wants, and at the moment the buying hearts want RC30s, OW-01s, Gammas, RZs and early Ducati superbikes. But not Turbos.

From the seller:
WOW! NO RESERVE! Might consider an early strong offer for serious buyers (simply contac me), so this is your rare chance! Its the rarely seen for sale ever one year only 1983 Honda CX650 TURBO !. The holy grail here guys, not seen often for sale, known as arguably “the most collectable honda of all time”. Very nice cond, starts right up, everything works as it should, OEM mirrors included (see last pic) aprox 26K miles, always California. runs and rides amazing! Get it today,

I empathize with the seller here. Despite the hyperbole, the CX650 Turbo probably should be one of the holy grail bikes in terms of numbers. But numbers do not tell the whole story. And even though they *are* quite rare, we do see decent examples pop up for sale now and again. The market as a whole is moving upward, thanks to a combination of slowly emerging from the pandemic and emerging from winter. That means riding season is upon us, that that always drives the frenzy of bidding. But we do not often find such frenzy with this particular niche of bikes.

This particular CX650 looks to be in decent shape – but it is difficult to determine critical details with the low-res photography and video. By all counts the bike does look complete, which is a plus. Seller notes that the original OEM mirrors are included; it is possible they were changed out to allow the rider a view other than one’s own shoulders. Mileage is more than we usually expect to see, but these CX motors are robust, and the strengthening added to the bottom end means that these are not fragile, mechanical nightmares. The ask here is pretty big, somewhat commensurate with all of the rising market rates, but maybe too early to be this high for a Turbo? Can’t blame a seller for trying, but interested to see where this takes us for the model. Do you think the odd Turbo bikes will ever become valued for their rarity, or will these always lag the collector market? Check out all of the details here, and then jump to the comments and share your thought on Turbos. Good Luck!!

MI

All The Torques: 1983 Honda CX650 Turbo