Posts by Category: MV Agusta

MV Agusta April 14, 2018 posted by

Evolution: 2002 MV Agusta F4 750 SPR for Sale

The MV Agusta F4 750 is so often referred to as "one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever created" that it's easy to forget it's actually a pretty good motorcycle as well. Sure, it's brutally uncomfortable and a little bit heavier than the competition, but the engineering is sound and it's an impressively refined piece, considering this was the company's first modern superbike, built from the ground up to compete against the very best sportbikes in the world. It fell a bit short of the mark, but not so far short you could consider it an actual failure, considering the bike's longevity.

The orignal F4 750 was introduced in 1999 and the later 1000cc version that followed in 2005 was basically the 750 with more displacement and some refinements, and every four-cylinder machine produced by the company was based on the same engine and frame, up until the complete redesign of the F4 for 2010. So you're looking at a pretty long-serving package, considering the normally rapid pace of sportbike development, and that second generation F4 introduced in 2010 is still used as the foundation for a mid-pack WSBK contender!

So what was wrong with the F4? Well basically, in a class where power-to-weight ratios are critical, the bike had just average power and about 50lbs too much weight. In any other motorcycle category, that would be pretty meaningless, but in the hyper-competitive sportbike world, it meant everything, especially when you consider the somewhat shocking cost of the F4. Ultimately, the F4 was just a step behind the leaders in a class that was now obsolete, as literbikes were suddenly the top dogs of the sportbike world. MV Agusta solved the power problems with their updated F4 1000 but the damage to their rep was done, and the bikes never really offered any performance advantage over a ZX-10 or GSX-R1000, with less reliability and a whole lot more cost.

The seller claims this is an SPR, but I was under the impression the SPR was introduced in 2004, the ultimate evolution of the F4 750 and is most commonly seen in flat black colors. Whether or not this is an SPR or an S, it's a later version of the bike and should be more refined and reliable than the first-generation examples. The included Power Commander is a nice touch: fueling on stock F4s is pretty terrible from the factory, lean through most of the rev range and then artificially rich at the top. It's especially noticeable on the 1000 but both versions benefit hugely in terms of usability from a fueling module and some dyno time. I've ridden a stock 1000 and a properly tuned example nearly back-to-back, and the difference is pronounced. The stock bike seems to almost bog when you whack the throttle open in the midrange, where as the tuned version pulls as you'd expect: like a freight train.

From the original eBay listing: 2002 MV Agusta F4 750 SPR for Sale

Need garage space, so newer bikes must go! This 2002 MV F4 SPR was one of two California-legal MVs, purchased from Grand Prix Motors, San Diego. Original owner was importer for MV Agusta in 1970s, Commerce Overseas Corporation. Designer of the MV750S America: pictured in the foreground with this F4. The bike comes with a ton of MV Agusta history accumulated by Commerce Overseas, including racing photos from MV glory days! With only 8,000 miles, this F4 SPR is in "as-new" condition. Equipped with rare MV factory racing exhaust, bike is tuned with a Power Commander. New tires, recent service. Stunning example of the F4 that was produced in SPR form after initial hiccups with early models.

The bike has 8,250 miles on it and there are no takers yet at the $10,000 starting bid. For the most part, it's pretty commonly accepted that the later 1000 is a better bike overall and that the 750 is underpowered and slightly overweight. It is the original though, and rarer, and should prove to be the better investment over time. Plus, an MV is still an MV, and none of them are actually slow. Try to think of them more as... mature, with just a little bit of middle-aged paunch over an athlete's build. Put it this way: if you're riding an F4 and someone is faster than you are on track or down a given stretch of back road, the problem probably isn't the extra 50lbs the F4 carries over a GSX-R... The problem is probably you.

-tad

MV Agusta April 4, 2018 posted by

Signed by the Master: 2002 MV Agusta F4 750 for Sale

An MV Agusta F4 750 Senna "signed by the master" would normally mean that it was signed by its creator, Massimo Tamburini. In this case though, the "master" in question is Giacomo Agostini, the famous rider who rode MVs to victory in so many races during the marque's heyday. The F4 was to be their return to prominence, and the 750cc displacement of the original F4 introduced in 1999 would have allowed it to compete in World Superbike, a series with roots in production-based motorcycles, rather than Grand Prix racing.

Unfortunately the F4 suffered in comparison to much more affordable bikes from the Japanese Big Four but, even at the time, the biggest disappointment seemed to come from the bike's lack of any performance advantage compared to the benchmark GSX-R750 and its high cost, rather than any real flaw in the bike itself. Given the exotic looks and racing pedigree, they expected riding nirvana and they got... a perfectly competent, fast motorcycle with typically uncomfortable Italian ergonomics and suspect electicals.

The 750 wasn't actually slow, it just wasn't any faster than a GSX-R750 and really, why would it have been? Aside from a shocking price tag, the big problem was that the achingly beautiful exotic was launched as a 750cc machine just as the class was being made redundant by rules changes in racing and the new breed of literbikes that fit 1000cc power into 750cc packages. MV released their updated 1000cc version of the F4 within a few years, but the damage was done to the bike's reputation, and you still hear people refer to the 750 as if it's a bit of a dog.

Claimed horsepower was 136, with 118 real-world ponies finding their way to the ground, which was nearly identical to a GSX-R of the same period. Unfortunately, weights were not identical: the F4 clocked in at nearly 50 pounds more, full of fuel, and it seems to carry that weight up pretty high. The riding position is definitely uncomfortable and, compared to modern machines, it's awkward at low speeds and runs hot in traffic. But get into a groove and a well set up F4 corners beautifully: it may never have been the most agile bike in its class, but it's a testament to the soundness of the original design that the same basic machine was able to remain competitive for ten years, at least in terms of handling.

I've never been particularly excited by the sound of an inline four, and the F4 doesn't sound all that exotic riding past. But from the saddle there's a metallic rasp not found on other bikes, and the engine has a frantic quality that gives the conventional inline four wail an exotic quality that sets it apart. This particular F4 is the limited-edition [aren't they all?] Senna edition, named after famed racing driver Aryton Senna. Miles are collector-bike low ad the bike is sporting the aforementioned signature of the great Ago on the windscreen.

From the original eBay listing: 2002 MV Agusta F4 750 Senna for Sale

Extremely rare and beautiful. Part of a small collection of bikes purchased new by NHL Hall of Famer Sergei Fedorov. Bike has been personally signed by legendary MV Agusta rider/ champion Giacomo Agostini! This bike is number 192 of 300 built for worldwide production. MV reported that only 50 of these bikes were imported to North America. Inline 4 cylinder engine designed with cooperation from Ferrari produces 136hp at 13900 rpms. 0 – 60mph in 2.9 seconds. Quarter mile in 10.7 at 136mph. Lightweight and extremely fast. These bikes are legendary not only for performance and handling but for design and collectability!

Bike is in excellent cosmetic, running and riding condition at 3200 miles. The sale includes original owner’s manual, spare key, spark plug tool, and factory red rear wheel bike stand.

The bike appears to be in excellent cosmetic condition, although we really don't care about claimed horsepower for a bike that was famously unexceptional in that regard. The bike wasn't "lightweight" or "extremely fast" but it was definitely a very serious performance machine and it is still one of the best-looking motorcycles ever built. I prefer the F4 in standard colors, with the cool, yellow-faced tachometer, but it certainly looks very special in the black, grey, and red seen here. F4s can be surprisingly affordable to buy at the moment, but values of the very rare Senna are a good bit higher, and Ago's signature certainly adds to the cool factor. Bidding on this example is up to $13,000 with very little time left on the auction.

-tad

Signed by the Master: 2002 MV Agusta F4 750 for Sale
MV Agusta March 27, 2018 posted by

Papa-Paparazzi – 2005 MV Agusta F4 Tamburini #256 of 300

Like a director's cut of your favorite movie, a special edition sportbike named for the designer will be a memorable experience.  The Tamburini signature F4 is the second 1000cc special edition, and number 256 of 300 has been upgraded and cared for by a notable collector.

2005 MV Agusta F4 Tamburini for sale on eBay

 

The F4 was introduced in 1999 as a 750cc, and the Tamburini is a bit of a return to the original Oro edition where carbon was used extensively.  The Ferrari-designed heads have the valves arranged on the domed top of the combustion chamber for theoretical optimum flow and power, but complicating the head with valves splayed slightly in three dimensions.  With multi-point fuel injection the 998cc four is rated at 173 hp, and the torque curve is helped by the newly introduced Torque Shift System, which shortens the intake runners substantially as rpm's approach 10,000.  Presuming a skilled rider, electronics can help slow the throttle curve and limit power, but there is no traction control or ABS.

 

Somehow this F4 has amassed 14,800 miles, but looks quite excellent.  Along the way the wheels were replaced with BST carbon fiber, the exhaust changed to the factory racing set, and front brakes upgraded to carbon-ceramics, which alone save around 3 lbs of unsprung weight.  Other upgrades are described in the eBay auction:

The original owner went crazy with upgrades and it has BST full carbon-fiber wheels, a performance slipper clutch, carbon ceramic rotors and Brembo mono-blok calipers.  Also has  Ohlins shocks nice adjustable rear set and numerous other things.   All in all I see well in excess of $20,000 spent on upgrades.
The bike comes with an extra seat, the racing exhaust (installed) as well as the street exhaust.  I am including two keys, the rear paddock stand, the cover as well as a few spares like the original license plate frame, grips, levers and clutch.  Bike has the original invoice as well as service records from new.
The original wheels do not come with the bike but I understand they are available if you choose to take off the $10,000 wheels that are currently on the bike.  
I have just had the bike serviced and it runs fantastic.  The brakes are absolutely amazing!   I had all fluids replaced, valves adjusted and the radiator upgraded with a popular reinforcement (weak link on these bikes) All in service cost $1,600.   
I purchased the bike from Guy Webster who is very well known as a collector of rare Italian motorcycles.  The bike still has his signature "Motoguy" stickers on the bodywork, easily removed. 

 

Guy Webster is a rock band photographer whose bike collection was part of the "Art of the Motorcycle" show in 1998 and got a neat write-up in the Robb Report.  From the looks of it the F4 may have just been too new to really fit in.  My back-of-the-napkin math shows a pretty serious discount from the original purchase price to the buy-it-now, compounded by some dollar-intensive upgrades.  Hopefully a fan will step in and give this distinctive MV a permanent home...

-donn

Papa-Paparazzi – 2005 MV Agusta F4 Tamburini #256 of 300
MV Agusta February 14, 2018 posted by

Jacket Included: 2005 MV Agusta F4 1000 Tamburini for Sale

Limited by budgets and economies of scale, many smaller car and motorcycle manufacturers are stuck rehashing the same product line, trying to keep pace with much larger companies capable of significant revamps and updates of their models to keep pace with the ruthless advance of technology and changing consumer tastes. Certainly, the Italian brands have often fallen victim to this and, until pretty recently, even Ducati was often forced to generate excitement through "limited editions" that amounted to performance and appearance upgrades to existing, sometimes obsolete machines. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, especially when your existing, obsolete machine is as spectacular as Massimo Tamburini's most beautiful creation, the MV Agusta F4.

Out of date the F4 may have been by 2005, but when the original bike looks so good and offers such a high level of performance, that phrase is of limited importance. It may have been 40 pounds heavier than more affordable competition like Suzuki's benchmark GSX-R1000 while offering very similar power, but it's not like the F4 was by any measure slow. The biggest issue, aside from purchase and running costs, was how much harder you had to work for that speed: ergonomics really are pretty brutal for anything other than committed riding, and anyone considering an F4 today should keep in mind that the bike is devoid of any electronic safety net, so you'd better be sure of the road surface or be fully upright before pulling the trigger. In an era of 200hp superbikes, it's easy to dismiss a 170hp machine, but inexperienced riders do so at their peril.

To drum up interest in a bike that had basically been around since the 1999 introduction of the F4 750, MV Agusta took their more powerful 998cc version and basically made everything lighter or better or at the very least carbon-fiber-ier and created the F4 1000 Tamburini. The result was still nearly 20lbs heavier than a GSX-R1000 but I'm not sure anyone with the means to buy one really cared. Power was up just a few ponies, but the big news was the addition of MV's interesting and effective Torque Shift System that used two sets of intake runners to improve midrange power without sacrificing the top end.

Inline fours can sound a bit bland to me when they drive past, but the sound of the F4 from the saddle is entirely different, much more frantic and exotic than something like a BMW S1000RR, and the soft stutter of the Engine Brake System on the overrun adds a layer of additional interest. That system was fitted in lieu of a slipper clutch and basically holds a couple of valves on once cylinder open on a closed throttle. It works very well, allowing hard downshifts without locking the rear wheel.

Most sportbikes go through a period of time where they just look out of date, before becoming "classic," but the F4 somehow missed that phase entirely. It's shocking how much attention even an ordinary example can generate, and how good it still looks in the flesh. It's like owning an affordable Ferrari: it doesn't really matter that you bought that 308 a few years back for $25,000, everyone still thinks you're some kind of rich guy, because Ferrari. Of course, if you're interested in today's Tamburini edition of the F4, it would probably help to actually be rich...

From the original eBay listing: 2005 MV Agusta F4 1000 Tamburini for Sale

2005 MV Agusta Tamburini #254 our of 300 ever built. Mint condition with 1,400 miles. I am the second owner was originally purchased locally in Dallas TX at an MV dealer will come with all original documents, COA, etc and an MV Agusta leather jacket.

Oooh, a jacket! Well that's it then, I'm going to drop the $38,000 asking price if it includes a gen-u-ine MV Agusta jacket [not pictured]! Hey, considering the original $43,000 asking price, not adjusted for inflation, that price seems almost reasonable. There's not much information in the listing, but what is there really to say about a "mint condition" bike with so few miles? Normally, I'd want to know if the little things that are typically done to improve the F4 have been taken care of, but I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume they haven't considering the mileage and the bike's collectable nature. I'm sure no one will really care all that much about the fragile fuel connectors being replaced with more robust bits, or a Power Commander being fitted and dyno-tuned, but who knows? Maybe someone will get dinged thirty years from now for those sensible changes at some obnoxious, concourse-style event where they judge that kind of "originality" to be critically important.

-tad

Jacket Included: 2005 MV Agusta F4 1000 Tamburini for Sale
MV Agusta January 6, 2018 posted by

Used as Intended: 2013 MV Agusta F4-RR

The seller of this 2013 MV Agusta F4-RR seems to know little about its history or provenance, but it appears to have been mostly for track use up to this point, and sports a monoposto tail section devoid of taillights or provisions for license plates. The ad says the bike has a clear title, but the dealer isn't standing behind it as a street bike.

2013 MV Agusta F4RR for sale on eBay

That said, MV Agusta F4-RRs are scarce as dog feathers, so if the numbers come back clean it's still a worthy grab for someone. The RR version of MV's mighty F4 wears Brembo M50 monobloc brakes, cast aluminum wheels, Ohlins electronically adjustable suspension and switchable engine maps. Oh, and it pushes out around 200 horsepower that carts around not much more than 420 pounds.

From the eBay listing:

2013 MV Agusta F4-RR Track Bike
NADA Retail Value $19,780

1,229 Miles
White/ Red/ Black Paint
998 cm3 (60.9 cu. in.) Short-stroke inline four-cylinder engine with central cam chain and radial valves
Precise-shifting five-speed transmission includes overdrive fifth.
Final Drive chain drive
Liquid Cooled Fuel Injected
ELDOR electronics package with Ride-By-Wire system and four maps engine
Throttle sensitivity adjustable (selectable between Normal, Sport and Rain)
Max torque (selectable between Normal, Sport and Rain)
Variable Engine response (selectable between Normal, Sport and Rain)
Engine Braking (selectable between Normal, Sport and Rain)
RPM limiter (selectable between Normal, Sport and Rain)
Inertial vehicle lean angle sensor
Traction control adjustable on eight levels
Electronic EAS (Electronically Assisted Shift)
Modular mixed structure frame with hand TIG welded tubular steel trellis and aluminum plates
Ohlins suspension with electronic control (F4 RR)
Brembo monobloc brake calipers (model M50 on the F4 RR)
This Bike runs and rides great. Very Fast and first year of production for this model
A great fun bike for the serious racer or collector.
Call or come by and talk to one of our sales associates today so we can get your knees in the breeze on this great Track Bike today.
This Bike appears to have been set up to be ridden on a closed track, so we are selling her as is, we do not know of any apparent problems. Because we have reason to believe she may have been run on a track we are selling her "as is", "with all faults" and for "Track use only" and the price reflects this. Any street use or ability to restore her to street use is NOT warranted. Further we do not Warrant, expressly or implied, that this bike is suitable for such use. This motorcycle has been modified for track use, thereby voiding any factory or seller warranty. The buyer is expected to practice due diligence when purchasing this bike and check all pictures and descriptions of the bike to insure it is what they want. If you have any questions please ask them before purchasing. FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY. There are no warranties which extend beyond the description on the face hereof.

Some of these bikes are New Inventory and have not been through our shop yet. Some parts may not function or otherwise meet our quality standards and may be removed or replaced during our shop's inspection,any changes will be at our Service Managers sole discrection. The initial picture(s) represents a 'First Look' at the bike, so that you can get a general idea of the bikes condition.

The asking price under $12,000 seems a little low, but since the seller seems to know little about the machine and what its past life was like, there could be good reason for that.

Used as Intended: 2013 MV Agusta F4-RR
MV Agusta December 28, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 2007 MV Agusta F4 1000 Senna

To those of you who hang around this site enough, the MV Agusta F4 Senna should be a pretty familiar sight. We've covered a few of them this year, and breathlessly deliver the spec sheet and production numbers every time we get the chance. This example is number 87 of the total run of 300, and has covered about 7,500 miles over its life.

Though it is now approaching its 11th year, the Senna is based on the F4 1000R of the same era, which means you get tons of modern conveniences, including a trick engine braking assist system, smoothed-out powerband and mod cons like radial Brembos and adjustable suspension. Oh, and 174 horses from the 1,000cc inline four.

The Senna edition, named for MV designer Massimo Tamburini's good friend and F1 world champion Ayrton Senna, gets special paint and bodywork, Marchesini wheels, and an Alcantara seat to boot.

From the seller:

["For Sale - baby coming - literally!

2007 MV Augusta F4 1000 Senna.

Remarkably rare and clean.

Certified #087/300

7300 miles.

Lots of carbon fiber.

Priced to sell.

Threw on some Super Corsa race takeoffs so I could go knock the dust off. The stock tires were old and unridable. Personally I prefer the Super Corsa, it feels way better! But I can change the tires to what you prefer.

It's pretty obvious the bike has never been on a track.

$16,495 obo

Accepting Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash - will discount.

Location: Las Vegas

Call to discuss:

424-345-4333

Email: Webbasedmoney@gmail.com
Wire Secure Messenger: webbasedmoney

Steve

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Featured Listing: 2007 MV Agusta F4 1000 Senna