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Honda December 11, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1986 Honda VF1000R

Update 12.11.2017: Now on eBay and reserve appears met with an opening bid of $5,000! Good luck to buyers and seller! -dc

Built to celebrate Honda's AMA F1 and Daytona 200 successes in the early to mid-'80s, the Honda VF1000R was bedecked with everything Honda's skunk works had bolted together for its racebikes, and made the kind of power that the F model could only dream about. The V4 had the same displacement and basic layout as the VF1000F, but that is where the similarities ended, the key difference being the R's gear-driven cams.

1986 Honda VF1000R for sale on eBay

The changes made it good for more than 10 horsepower over the F, but the special parts list meant the bike the better part of 100 pounds heavier than its stablemate. Still, it was among the more special bikes available in its day, especially from Japan, and all of Honda's wizardry meant the VF1000R held fastest production honors briefly.

This 1986 Honda VF1000R is in excellent condition for its age and sports a scant 4,122 miles. The low miles can be attributed to the bike having been stored for the last 26 years, and while many cosmetic pieces have been lightly repaired and repainted to account for that, the bike still is not perfect.

It has its share of blemishes from sitting and age, but none are serious. The carburetors have been cleaned, as have the fuel tank and fuel pump, and it has a new petcock, fuel lines, fuel filter, spark plugs and side cover gaskets. The bike runs, but its suspension has not been rebuilt and it wears original or very old tires, which would need to be changed if you're going to ride it.

From the seller:

All fluids have been changed with new filters installed.
New NGK plugs
Bike is running. Clutch, brakes and gearbox are in good condition and operate.
Starter clutch sticks a little when cold starting, once warmed up bike idles at 1000 rpm , heat cycles and fans operate. Revs fully to red line, no noises other than a beautiful cam gear drive whine these bikes are noted for.
Cold blooded starter.
Not a perfect bike, but a really nice example.
Clean title
4122 original miles.

Light cosmetic restoration.
A few issues with the bodywork were repaired, repainted and clear coated with PPG products, the body work was NOT stripped and redone. Great care was taken to preserve the original decals to keep the bike as authentic as possible.
95% of the bodywork fasteners have been replaced due to corrosion of the originals.
The fuel tank was cleaned inside, new Honda petcock, Motion Pro fuel lines, new needle valves in conjunction with a carb cleaning. New fuel filter and a cleaned fuel pump (original).
Original air filter.
Rebuilt starter.
Rebuilt clutch master, all new fluid.
Stainless steel lines (F/R brakes and Clutch line) that were on the bike since 1991 and show a little patina.
New chain on original chain wheels, old chain was unable to be salvaged, chain wheels looked new.
New gaskets for the stator and clutch covers.
New battery.
All electrical accessories work (horn, lights, blinkers).
Original Honda Exhaust.
All original reflectors and directionals.
Original seat and pad covers. Small tear in seat near solo cowl.

The motor has not been removed from the chassis.
Some fasteners have some patina.
Original Honda TRAC front fork and rear air suspension.
Rear shock has functioning cable adjuster, the shock HAS NOT been rebuilt.
Forks are original and have not been rebuilt. No leaks, dust seals look very good.
Tires are thought to be original and would need to be replaced before putting the bike on the road.

Low mile bike that is a great candidate for a full restoration.
I have limited the restoration to keep it as original as possible.
This bike can be taken to a higher level restoration for the right buyer, or, it would make a great addition to a collection as is.
If you intend to ride it, seriously consider upgrades to the rear suspension as the only parts available for a rebuild are the air seals.
Tires will need to be replaced, if riding it is in your plans.
If you are unable to effect these modifications, inquire.
$7500 or reasonable offer.
Located in Clermont, FL 34715.
407-492-5854
www.gsxronly.com

The $7,500 asking price is upper echelon for these bikes, but the seller has made a strong effort here to keep the bike as original as possible while making sure it is mechanically sound. With just a little more work, the bike would make an excellent collectible that could still be ridden.

Featured Listing: 1986 Honda VF1000R
Honda July 12, 2017 posted by

Pristine: 1985 Honda VF1000R with 442 Miles for Sale

When you mention Honda’s endurance race replicas, most folks are likely to think of their iconic RC30 or RC45 machines, some of the best-looking bikes of their era, or maybe the smaller NC30 if they’re more budget-minded. But the VF1000R had endurance-racer styling and a host of sophisticated features to homologate them for competition. Possibly the bike has languished a bit forgotten as it hails from an in-between period of sportbike design, as the formula was still being established. It’s bulkier and heavier than you might expect for a sports-oriented bike, at 600lbs wet. But 125hp and a spread of V4 torque meant a top speed of almost 150mph and, in keeping with the endurance-racing theme, it could charge along at that speed all day long.

So why was this racing-styled beast so heavy? The typical Honda tendency to over-engineer everything: fairings on the bike featured spring-loaded flaps to vent hot air, and the rear brake actually has a vented disc. Torque-Reactive Anti-Dive Control forks were designed to reduce brake dive and featured quick-release axles, adjustable bars meant ideal setup for a variety of riders, and modular Comstar wheels were wrapped in radial tires, a relatively new development for motorcycles. At the heart of the machine was a 998cc V4 with gear-driven cams that gave precise timing and that distinctive whine.

The VF1000R is not exactly an agile machine, but handling is stable and good wind protection combined with those adjustable ergos mean reasonable comfort. This particular example appears to be in pristine condition, as you'd expect with just 442 miles on the odometer. The only possible downside is that slightly less-desirable single, US-market headlamp. Interestingly, Honda developed that configuration just in case the Euro twin-lamp [behind a single lens] set up didn't pass regulations here. They needn't have worried, apparently, but typical Honda thoroughness won out and luckily both treatments look good.

From the original eBay listing: 1985 Honda VF1000R with 442 Miles for Sale

Up for sale is my 1985 Honda VF1000R from my collection and it is in pristine condition and is listed with an astonishing 442 miles. The bike sat indoors for 27 years but that a full refresh has already been completed (details below).

Honda’s enthusiasm for the V4 engine layout in the early 1980s was such that by 1984 the VF range comprised six models and the fastest and most glamorous was the VF1000R: a limited-edition super-sports machine that was created, with little expense spared, to dominate production racing in the way that the straight-four CB1100R had done three years earlier.

Refresh details:

  • Flushed brakes, add stainless steel braided brake lines, rebuilt rear master cylinder
  • Lubed and adjusted throttle and clutch cables
  • Flushed cooling system
  • Torqued and checked all chassis fittings and fasteners,  check/tighten steering head bearings,
  • Replaced shock (rear) with Hagon coil-over upgrade, shock was valved and springs for me being a 180 lb. solo rider optimum.
  • Replaced battery, NGK spark plugs,
  • Performed compression check and full tune, including clean and synch carbs, flush fuel tank and add 1 gallon bath metal rust remover, replace petcock assembly (leaking).
  • Added engine top-end oiling kit from Daughtry Motorsports (early VF1000's were reported to suffer top end oiling deficiency and this kit addresses that fully).  Includes oil filter with adapter for top-end oiling kit.
  • Replaced original tires (old and cracked) with brand new Bridgestone Battlax BT45's.  Went to 150/70/17 rear (stock was 140) and 120/80/16 front (stock size).

Starting bid for this listing is $12,000 with no takers yet plenty of time left. These have been selling for shockingly low sums up until very recently, considering their rarity and specification, but collectors appear to have finally gotten wise to this forgotten gem. The seller is looking for big money, but I'd expect you're looking at the nicest, lowest-mileage example in the US. I'm not sure how much time it will take before that looks like a bargain, but I have the feeling it won't be all that long...

-tad

Pristine: 1985 Honda VF1000R with 442 Miles for Sale
Honda April 28, 2017 posted by

Overbuilt Race-Rep: 1985 Honda VF1000R for Sale

Values of Honda’s overbuilt homologation special VF1000R have been shockingly low up until very recently, but these red-white-and-blue beasts are starting to see a significant increase in price. They’re not lightweight or nimble at nearly 600lbs with a tank of fuel, but Honda’s build quality and engineering prowess are on display throughout the bike: the 998cc V4 used gear-driven cams in place of chains, Torque-Reactive Anti-Dive Control forks for better performance under braking, modular Comstar wheels and radial tires when radial tires were still rare and exotic, quick-release axles, adjustable bars, and even a vented rear brake... No, I don’t mean cross-drilled, the rear brake was vented.

The style of the bodywork reflected the VF1000R’s endurance-racing roots and features some interesting little quirks: you can see where Aprilia got some design ideas from those funky mesh side-panels. Two different headlight configurations were available, depending on year: the dual-headlight setup is generally considered more desirable, although they’re both tucked behind a single rectangular lens so they don’t look like you’d expect if you’re picturing something like an RC30. This example uses the single headlight that has a couple of additional vents around the sides and top to take up the space left by the bigger unit. Why two styles? Honda was worried the dual setup wouldn’t pass US regulations and created an alternative treatment, just in case.

All-in-all it was typical Honda overkill, which is fine unless it leads to a significant increase in weight which blunts performance significantly: the VF1000R certainly isn’t a slow bike, but it’s not all that fast either. Handling was a bit ponderous, but good set up can help quite a bit and the positive news for road-riders is that the available performance is pretty effortless, the fairings provide good wind protection, and the bike can cruise at its near 150mph top speed with ease.

From the original eBay listing: 1985 Honda VF1000R for Sale

This was the superbike of the day in 1985. I looked long and hard to find one in really nice original condition as it is getting hard to find good ones. This one was always stored inside and I have in in a climate controlled facility. I don't think it has ever been laid over as it is basically scratch free EXCEPT for on both sides of the front fender there are scratches that I guess were caused by someone's poor quality tie downs. You can see the scratches in the pic's. It has new tires. It has he original pipes which is unbelievable in itself.

The seller is right that these are rare bikes, although nice ones do show up pretty regularly on eBay. They're the kind of bikes people bought and cherished from new, so thrashed examples seem more like the exception rather than the rule. Which is good, because finding replacement parts is pretty difficult and the aftermarket is basically nonexistent. So why didn’t these capture the public’s imagination in the way the later RC30 and RC45 did? Probably a combination of the aforementioned visual and physical bulk. But maybe it also had something to do with the V4’s negative perception at the time that resulted from a few of the early VF750’s chain-driven cam lobes de-lobing, sometimes referred to as the “Chocolate Camshaft” syndrome. That issue actually affected only a small group of the early V4 bikes with chain-driven cams, but Honda's reputation took a big hit and required the incredible high-quality of the VFR750 that followed to erase that black mark.

-tad

Sport Bikes For Sale January 31, 2017 posted by

Bonhams Las Vegas 2017 Recap

While I've known about the Mecum and Bohmans auctions in Las Vegas for several years now, this was my first chance to go. We found a great package for the Bellagio and decided to make a quick trip of the event. Unfortunately we were only able to make it to the Bonhams sale but as a first taste of live auction action, we were not disappointed. Not to mention they had dozens of bikes that fit the RSBFS niche. I've highlighted a handful below with some shaky videos and quick snapshots.

Many thanks to Nick and Jared at Bonhams who graciously gave me the nickel tour just minutes before the auction began. I look forward to returning someday soon as a registered bidder!

dc

RSBFS notable sales:

This 2008 Ducati Desmosedici RR, one Owner with 1,500 miles sold for just $36,000 before premium!

Here is a 1985 Honda VF1000R with 4 Miles that sold for $11,500 before premium.

And an RSBFS favorite, a 1985 Yamaha RD500LC with 1,279 Miles sold for $20,500 before premium.

But this 2003 MV Agusta F4 750 Series Oro with 0 miles didn't sell at $40k bid.

This 1984 Ducati 748cc TT1 Road Racer was a featured bike at Bonhams but failed to sell at $80k.

I was curious about this extensively upgraded 1997 Ducati 900SS/SP, which sold for $6,800 before premium. The description states there is a history files documenting $20k in work!

The MH900e market seems stable with this example showing under 5,000 miles and reaching a sale at $18,400 before premium.

This Laverda RGS1000 was bid up to $9k but did not sell.

I didn't get to see this one, but this Bimota YB8 Furano is shown as sold at $13,000 before premium.

I also wasn't able to see this Ducati 851 Tricolore with the race kit. It doesn't show a sale price. Did anyone catch what the final bid was?

Out of sheer curiosity, this Cagiva Gran Canyon sold for a mere $3,450 including premium. Nice buy!

For all the sale results, check out the results on the Bonhams website.

My snapshot gallery:

Bonhams Las Vegas 2017 Recap
Honda September 15, 2016 posted by

Vee-Four: 1985 Honda VF1000R for Sale

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The popular conception of homologation specials is one of thinly-veiled racebikes, competition bodywork with a couple holes cut in it for headlights, close-ratio gearboxes, and racebike power just a remap/rejet away. The reality is sometimes far less exciting. Sure, the Honda VF1000R may look like an endurance-racing bike with lights, but at a portly 600lbs with fuel, plenty of other bikes of the period could show it a clean pair of heels. Ultimately, the bike was a bit of a misfire as a performance machine: it was just too heavy and offered no real advantage in terms of power or handling over the more common VF1000S. But that wasn’t really the point, since an homologation bike is mainly designed to include specific components so that those same bits can be utilized by production-based racing teams. And anyway, the same criticisms could be leveled at both the RC30 and RC45: out of the box, they were incredibly exotic, but some fast guy on a standard GSX-R750 could probably take your candy.

1985-honda-vf1000r-r-side

The VF1000R's 998cc V4 ditched the S-version's cam chains and replaced them with a more precise gear arrangement, something that eventually became the V4's distinguishing characteristic. It made a claimed 117hp and the slippery fairings allowed a near 150mph top speed, while Honda's Torque-Reactive Anti-Dive Control meant cool acronyms and improved manners under heavy braking. Wheels are often overlooked and considered pretty unremarkable on a motorcycle: they're round and covered with sticky, black rubber things. But as the point of contact between the bike and road, they're critically important components.

1985-honda-vf1000r-rear-wheel

In the VF1000R's case, they were Honda's modular Comstar wheels and came with radial tires, something very new to motorcycles at that time. Axles were clamped in place with a quick-release system, the rear brake disc was vented, and the bike featured adjustable bars to help set the bike up for the rider's individual preferences. Obviously, many of those parts serve no real purpose on a road bike, except to admire for their innovation and craftsmanship, or to brag about at your local bike meet.

1985-honda-vf1000r-clocks

Today's example has low miles, appears to be in excellent condition, and features the desirable dual-headlamp setup often missing from the 1985 bikes: worried that it wouldn't pass federal regulations, Honda developed a simpler, single rectangular unit often seen on these bikes.

From the original eBay listing: 1985 Honda VF1000R for Sale

Not perfect, but a very, very good original survivor condition 1985 Honda VF1000R of sufficient quality that that it won its division at a large AMA sanctioned/ judged show (see below). It was originally purchased new in Indiana.  The 2nd owner purchased it in 1990 with about 5000 miles and eventually moved it to Kansas City.  I purchased this VF1000R from the 2nd owner in 2012 with 10,077 miles.

In 2012, I rode to one of the largest motorcyle events in Kansas City - The 20th Annual (and final) "Ralph Wayne Backyard Nationals".  It is an insane confluence of two-wheeled wonder that includes thousands of bikes including Ariels, Aprilias, Vincents, Victories, Hodakas,  Ducatis, Gammas, RZs, BMWs, Harleys, R1s, CBRs - you get the picture.  There is a tent in Ralph's back yard that only holds about 30 of the most unusual and/ or outstanding bikes at his event.  When I got there, one of the marshals waved me to the tent and this VF1000R was the only Honda under the tent that year.

In 2013, I entered this bike in the Clymer Manual Sponsored, Heart of America Motorcycle Enthusiasts (HOAME) Vintage Midwest AMA sanctioned and judged show.  This a huge regional show and this VF1000R won the "Best Modern Superbike "Division.  Several of the AMA judges asked me if I still rode it (by looking at the tire wear patterns).  I responded "yes" and they expressed mild amazement that a bike this nice would still be ridden regularly.   Clymer posted a video they took of this bike at the show on Youtube.  It can be viewed with key words "Clymer VF1000R".

The bike is nearly 100% survivor excepting the following:

When I initially rode the bike home after the sale, the OEM fork springs were shot, causing the front end to dive and scratching the front fender and left/ clutch side fork tube with the left lower metal blinker mount.  The scatches were touched up with correct, color-matched Honda "Fighting Red" paint.  The worn OEM fork springs were upgraded with Race Tech 1.05 Kg/ mm single-rate springs with new seals and synthetic Motul fork oil.  This fork upgrade dramatically improved front end tracking and feel.

The OEM/ survivor carbon fiber backed bodywork was touched-up with correct, color-coded paint prior to above shows and apparently looked good enough to the judges to win. It has the optional (for 1985 models) endurance racing dual headlamp fixture that came standard on the 1986-later models. It was shown with the F1S aluminum mufflers as seen in the photos, but the bike also comes with very good condition original/ OEM mufflers that could easily be cleaned up and reused if you want to sport that "Big 80s Big Muffler" look.  The F1S pipes on it now sound great. The OEM chain was replaced with RK X-Ring chain on the original/ OEM sprockets.

Prior to my ownership, some brake fluid leaked onto the external clutch cover and damaged some of the paint on the lower edge.  The damaged clutch cover paint has been colored with black marker.  See photos. There are a few scratches on top of the original aluminum/ OEM/ survivor fuel tank.  Otherwise the original paint looks deep and glossy except for minor/ normal mars on this 31 year-old survivor sportbike.

CONDITION:

The original 998 cc, V-4, 16-valve motor runs as well as any VF1000R.  It starts without issue and idles smoothly, does not smoke, shifts smoothly and accelerates linear and hard all the way to redline. No oil or hydraulic leaks.  The gear drive sound is marvelous.  There is no undue mechanical noise.  It purrs. The pictures closely demonstrate the overall, excellent condition of this 1985 VF1000R. Comes with (most of) the original Honda VF1000R tool kit which is otherwise unobtainium

I've enjoyed absolutely gawking at this very low mileage amazing condition VF1000R in my garage for the past 4 years and putting a few miles on it, but now it's time to pass it on to somebody who will hopefully enjoy it as much as I have.

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The seller includes a ton of information at the original listing and includes his personal history with the bike, a few minor cosmetic issues, and a listing of everything that was changed or updated, along with reasons why. It’s pretty clear that the owner is an enthusiast, although the price is on the high end for these: the starting bid is just south of $7,500 with no bids yet, but plenty of time left on the auction.

If you’re looking for a Honda homologation special and can’t spring for an RC30 or RC45, these are rare, feature exotic specification, and can still be had for relative peanuts. It's not, and probably never was a cutting-edge sportbike, but that just makes it more practical as an affordable bit of HRC history: something you can ride and enjoy, not something that needs to be stored away for alternate, sunny Wednesdays in June.

-tad

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Vee-Four: 1985 Honda VF1000R for Sale
Honda July 25, 2016 posted by

Back to the future: 1985 Honda VF1000R with under 500 miles

I have to admit the VF1000R was a bit before my time; my memories of 1985 are more about flying Deloreans than 1000cc sportbikes. For anyone else who doesn't remember, the Honda VF series of bikes included everything from a 400cc standard to 1000cc sportbikes.  The passage of time has relegated most of the lineup to the dustbin of history but the VF1000R is still highly desired by collectors.  Why?   Well it was the top bike in the lineup which is always a draw to collectors but more importantly, it was one the first models released by Honda after the VF-F "chocolate cams" issue damaged Hondas reputation. The response by Honda was to over engineer the next series of bikes (the VF-R series) resulting in bikes that had previously unheard of levels of performance, comfort and most importantly, reliability.  The VF1000R was the bike that proved Honda could make a big sportbike that would work everyday.

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1985 Honda VF1000R for sale on ebay

While the VF1000R was engineered to show that Honda had resolved the cam issues of the VF-F series, it was also designed to be the basis of race efforts and a showcase of Honda technology.  The big sportbike with the tasteful red over blue and white paint job included a lot of race tech from the company's race team efforts via significant changes to the engine, front suspension, bodywork, and rider ergonomics.  The result was the VF1000R was rated as the fastest production motorcycle until the Kawasaki GPZ900R took the title a year later.

An excellent and detailed explanation of all the changes between the VF1000F and the VF1000R series of bikes can be found here.

vf1000r4

While the VF1000R was a significant technological advancement from the F series that came before it, all the changes did result in one problem; an increase in weight.  The resulting bike weighed in at nearly 600 pounds with half a tank of fuel, roughly 85 pounds heavier than the F series race bike it was based on.  The result was the R version struggled to be competitive when it was used in racing.

Also the introduction of the CBR series in the late 1980's/early 1990's began an era where riders could get a mid-sized/much lighter bike that offered nearly the same power as the previous generation liter bikes like the VF1000R.  It would take until the introduction of the Yamaha R1 in 1998 for the liter bike class to regain its status as the king of the cc configurations.

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This particular VF1000R is in pristine condition and is listed with an astonishing 431 miles (yes you read that right). The seller indicates this particular bike sat indoors for 25 years but that a full refresh has already been completed (details below).

Refresh details

  • Flushed brakes, add stainless steel braided brake lines, rebuilt rear master cylinder
  • Lubed and adjusted throttle and clutch cables
  • Flushed cooling system
  • Torqued and checked all chassis fittings and fasteners,  check/tighten steering head bearings,
  • Replaced shock (rear) with Hagon coil-over upgrade, shock was valved and springs for me being a 180 lb. solo rider optimum.
  • Replaced battery, NGK spark plugs,
  • Performed compression check and full tune, including clean and synch carbs, flush fuel tank and add 1 gallon bath metal rust remover, replace petcock assembly (leaking).  
  • Added engine top-end oiling kit from Daughtry Motorsports (early VF1000's were reported to suffer top end oiling deficiency and this kit addresses that fully).  Includes oil filter with adapter for top-end oiling kit.
  • Replaced original tires (old and cracked) with brand new Bridgestone Battlax BT45's.  Went to 150/70/17 rear (stock was 140) and 120/80/16 front (stock size).

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So what is this fresh slab of mid-1980's sportbike goodness worth?  Well when I wrote this post the current high bid was $6,550 USD with a still listed Buy-It-Now option of $12,990 USD.  The price seemed a bit high at first but is actually in line with what other VF1000R's have sold for recently.   Given the outstanding condition, recent refresh and low miles, I think the reserve on this one will probably be near the Buy-It-Now price.

As the seller incides in their eBay listing "if you are serious about owning one of the nicest VF1000R's in the country this is the right bike."   Personally it's a bit before my time but it would be an excellent addition for a serious collector or perhaps someone who wants to re-live a bit of the 1980's.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

Back to the future: 1985 Honda VF1000R with under 500 miles