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Honda September 24, 2016 posted by

In the Beginning: 1987 Honda NSR250R MC16 for Sale

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Although the very last MC28 version of the NSR250R is often considered the most desirable of the line today, with high-tech electronics, handling, and gorgeous good looks, obviously owes its existence and success to the original Honda NSR250R MC16. These are becoming a bit less the unicorns they've been here in the USA up until now, due to a number of enterprising folks bringing them over by the bucketload as they reach 25 years old and become easier to import, although they'll never be common sights here.

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And although it lacks some of the polish and sophistication of the later versions, the MC16 was still a very fast little motorcycle. Powered by an extremely compact, crankcase-induced v-twin while competitors were powered by parallel twins, it also featured Nikasil-plated cylinders and an electronic "Revolutionary Controlled" valves replaced Honda's earlier ATAC system and it was all backed by a six-speed cassette gearbox for quick gearing changes at the track.

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From the original eBay listing: 1987 Honda NSR250R MC16 for Sale

1987 Honda NSR250R MC16 - a real gem!

All original, 30 years young. 7410km (appx 4605 miles). Younger riders beware, do not let the displacement (cc) of this bike fool you. Essentially a GP replica, this twin-cylinder, two stroke, 250 cubic centimeter spitting cobra used to be THE bike on the track. Not only is it the preferred bike of Isle of Man TT riders (Bruce Anstey, IOM TT Classic 2016 champion), this Honda historic icon was notorious for eating over-zealous riders for breakfast, lunch and dinner. The NSR250R is beyond flickable, lightweight (275lbs dry), and is basically on par with a 90's 600cc sport bike. They are no joke, and they are awesome. This is one of the very, very few titled MC16's in America. Don't miss out.

Includes the original Honda key, tool kit, and owner's manual. I am also including the Honda Factory Service Repair Manual in ENGLISH for free!  Has every Honda step and spec, makes maintenance a breeze.

BIKE HAS BEEN REGISTERED BY ME AND HAS A CLEAN, BRAND NEW, WASHINGTON STATE US TITLE WITH MATCHING VIN - THE HARD WORK HAS BEEN DONE, LEGAL TO RIDE IN ALL 50 STATES, EVEN CALIFORNIA!

Please double check with your city and county regulations prior to bidding/buying!

All electronics function properly: neutral switch, speed sensor, lights, horn, etc. Brakes have been bled and pads are in good shape with plenty of stopping power. Fuel tank has been emptied and cleaned.

GENUINE OEM Honda fairings, not cheapy-China replicas. At 30 years old, they do show signs of aging with one minor hairline crack near the right side mirror/turn signal and some scuffing towards the front side, as well as some very minor cosmetic imperfections toward the undersides. No frame scratches or tank dents.

Goes through all 6 gears like a twin cylinder bat, straight outta Hell.

Carbs have been cleaned, spark plugs replaced. Sync'd to the best of my ability. No fork seal leaks. Bike has been clay-barred, hand waxed, and detailed. Bike will need new tires and a final tune-up/walkaround before hitting the road/track. DO NOT RIDE THIS WITHOUT GETTING NEW TIRES FIRST. I also recommend using nothing but ethanol-free high octane gasoline aka "rec-gas".

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The seller is looking for $6,000 for this one, and helpfully includes a pair of videos here and here so you can have some confidence that, even if navigating the DMV proves difficult with this grey-market beastie, at least you know it starts and runs well. It's not perfect, with some scratches and surface rust, but looks like a solid example, and currently features a WA state title.

-tad

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In the Beginning: 1987 Honda NSR250R MC16 for Sale
Honda September 21, 2016 posted by

Freddie Spencer Replica: 1985 Honda NS250R for Sale

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The earlier MVX250F entry into the two-stroke class was criticized for being too bland, but they corrected that error with this, Honda's NS250R MC11. The bike made serious power and handled extremely well, but wasn't good for much other than racetrack antics and perfectly smooth roads. Like its descendants, the NS250R was packed full of cutting edge technology: the front used TRAC “Torque-Reaction Anti-Dive Control” forks and the engine had Honda’s ATAC “Automatic Controlled Torque Amplification Chamber” to boost midrange by adjusting the volume of the front cylinder’s exhaust.

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And while competing bikes from Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki used parallel-twin engines, Honda used a compact 90° v-twin configuration with Nikasil-lined bores that made the class-standard [and government-limited] 45hp at 9,500rpm. The bike weighed in at a featherweight 317lbs dry, thanks in part to a frame and the swingarm that were both constructed from lightweight aluminum, while Honda's Comstar modular wheels could be fitted with then-revolutionary tubeless tires.

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This example is done up in vivid Freddie Spencer colors and appears pristine. Freddie actually won both 250 and 500 titles in a single season on Hondas, something that just doesn’t even seem to fit into modern racing at all, unless we’re talking about the Isle of Man TT or the Northwest 200, where riders often compete in a number of classes on different displacement bikes.

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From the original eBay listing: 1985 Honda NS250R Freddie Spencer Replica for Sale

These are the holy grail of two-stroke road racing! These bikes are not around considering they were either raced or crashed. Seize the opportunity!

These Honda NS250Rs used to dominate the racing scene! It won the 250cc World Championship 11 times! This bike was distinctly modeled after Freddie Spencer’s race bike! These bikes are seriously light & agile, coupled with a powerful two-stroke engine made for very quick lap times! These bikes had a strong presence is the Isle of Man & many other historic racing events!

This bike possesses a massive fun factor! Once the power band is reached this thing goes into warp drive!

Sweet decal package with various Honda racing sponsors! Truly one of kind! NADA does not have a value on these bikes because they are so rare!

New rear tire! Less than 200 miles!

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No word on whether or not the bike comes with a valid US title or the box of genuine NOS Honda Racing Exclamation Points the seller used to write the listing... Obviously, this isn't an actual racebike: it's a race-replica. But the seller is correct: these are very rare, especially here in the USA. I'm not sure this was ever officially sold here, although two-strokes were still legally for sale up until 1985, so I guess its possible. If you are interested in bidding and live in a state where titling grey-market bikes is difficult, the usual "check with your local DMV before bidding" caveats apply. Although, with less than 200 miles, collectors who simply plan to display the bike might also be interested.

-tad

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Freddie Spencer Replica: 1985 Honda NS250R for Sale
Suzuki September 17, 2016 posted by

Forbidden Fruit: 1991 Suzuki RGV250 VJ22 for Sale

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Look, just to be clear: if you’re in California, you’re not getting this bike. The seller is most emphatic on that point. See below. It’s not that it’s completely impossible to find or to title a grey-market import Suzuki RGV250Γ in California, it’s just that you’re not getting this particular bike: apparently the seller tried but didn’t grease the right palms, or use the right combination of ancient incantations, so Title Compliance Overlords in Sacramento sent him a letter, clearly informing him he could not sell the bike to a CA resident. Bummer, but all you Golden State residents need to look elsewhere for your two-stroke fix. “But, but… I just wanted it as a for off-road-use-only track bike!” Sorry, buddy: you’re boned.

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But what’s the big deal with the RGV250 anyway? Well, if this is your first time visiting Rare Sport Bikes for Sale, the RGV250 Gamma was Suzuki’s entry into the hotly-contested and not-available-in-the-USA quarter-liter sportbike class that saw 249cc two-stroke twins battling for supremacy on track and in showrooms throughout the 80s and 90s. The bikes all featured cutting edge performance and technology, but with additional smoke and a lawnmower soundtrack. Lightweight aluminum frames, six-speed, sometimes cassette-style gearboxes, high-strung powerplants, and electronic trickery were the order of the day, and Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and even Kawasaki all had bikes in play. Although Honda was the gold-standard in terms of quality and innovation, Suzuki was the wild man of the bunch and it says something that Aprilia cribbed the RGV’s powerplant for their RS250. Probably just that Suzuki was willing to provide them for a good price, but still: it’s a simple, powerful engine with endless tuning options, although by reputation it's more fragile than the Honda NSR's unit.

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This VJ22 model seen here is distinguished by that classic “banana” swingarm that curved upward on the right side of the bike to allow the exhaust’s expansion chambers to tuck up close to the bike. It added weight but looks super-trick and should increase cornering clearance. Suzuki's "Advanced Power Controller” power-valve controller and was introduced to the Gamma in 1991 and helped boost midrange power. The 60hp the seller claims the tiny v-twin produces is completely believable and, although that may not sound like much at first, keep in mind that the RGV250 weighs in at under 300lbs dry.

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Feel free to check out the original listing: there’s plenty of information about the bike, as well as some very strongly worded political opinions...

From the original eBay listing: 1991 Suzuki RGV250 VJ22 for Sale

This is a clean RGV250 VJ22 without the usual corrosion that so many of these import bikes have. I bought this about 18 months ago and did my best to try and title in here in CA. After 6 months of trying I realized that it's not possible to title this here. It's registered in Vermont and I just renewed it in August. Since it's not legal here to ride it just sits in the garage. A few months ago I bought another RGV250 that was titled for a very long time in CA. so I finally have one to ride. I swapped the bodywork that I painted, white wheels and exhaust and put them on my new RGV.

So as to the details on the bike itself. Just did the top end with new pistons and made sure the power valves didn't have any loose pins. Bike has 32,000 km, motor has just under 17,000, km (about 10,000 miles) Starts first kick just about every time and oil injection is set correctly and working. Bike has been de-restricted and has very clean 34mm carbs, full power 22D30 Power controller box and Jolly Moto chambers. OEM body panels that fit nice but have scratches here and there and a few minor cracks. I planned on painting this white with Pepsi decals but I need to spend what little free time I have putting a new roof on my garage before snow flies here. I live in the mountains at 6,250ft elevation and have not jetted this bike for this altitude.  One my other RGV I had to modify the airbox lid for more air and jet down 2 sizes on the needle jets, mains, and go up on the air jets to get it to run right here. I didn't want to modify the airbox on this bike since it should work fine at lower altitude. The first thing you will need to do is jet this bike for your altitude, I left the jetting on stock sizes. If you don't like tuning and working on your bike often, a RGV is not for you. When the weather changes your jetting that worked great before won't even be in the ballpark. These are bikes for guys that like to work on their bikes often, that's half the fun. The power valves are the weak point and it's best to run Cougar Red power valves that don't have the pin problem of stock valves. I run them on my other RGV and they even add a few HP too, Pricey at $500 but cheaper than destroying cylinders and pistons when a loose pin falls into the bore.

If you have never ridden one of these they are a hoot. Super light (under 300lbs with aftermarket exhaust) razor sharp handling, great brakes and 60hp on tap with a light switch power band. This one also has 6 pistons calipers from a GSXR, they will stop you. As for what the bike needs. It could use a paint job, don't make the mistake of buying the Chinese painted body sets on eBay if you want a good panel fit. Front forks should be rebuilt and maybe re valve the GSX-R shock I added to replace the worn out stock one. Front rotors were replaced before I bought it but the rear should be changed. Frame is super clean and undamaged. Rear subframe is straight and I just had it powder coated. Most of the black small brackets were powder coated at the same time. Wire harness is nice with no splices...

If you’re a CA buyer I can't legally sell you this bike. It's in the system and there is no way you can title it in CA I tried believe me. These bikes are starting to get imported here now that the 91 and older GP 250 replicas like this are 25 years old. There quite collectible and going up in value. With a little work this bike can be super nice, no reserve so bid to win.

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It looks like this bike may have been featured on RSBFS awhile back, but with some parts swapped over to a different bike in the same owner's collection. Regardless, there have been no takers yet at the $6,000 opening bid, and there's just one day left on the auction. Certainly, that seems like a reasonable price for a solid, running RGV250, but the bike's questionable legal status and lack of originality may be putting off buyers.

-tad

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Forbidden Fruit: 1991 Suzuki RGV250 VJ22 for Sale
Honda September 8, 2016 posted by

De-Restricted Import: 1989 Honda NSR250R MC18 R5K for Sale

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Many of the coveted bikes in the quarter-liter two-stroke race-replica class were never officially sold outside Japan. They were certainly seen in countries where "parallel-imports" or "grey-market" bikes were commonly sold, but 250cc sportbikes were intended primarily to meet the needs and requirements of that market. And that means buzzy little animals like this Honda NSR250R MC18 were restricted to a mere 45hp when sold new in Japan, and de-restricting them can require knowledge, specialized parts, or both. In the case of the later MC28 that used Honda's trick Smartcard technology, de-restricting the bike was a major headache, since the digital card held the bike's ignition map and can't easily be updated without an official HRC race card, although apparently work-arounds do exist...

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Honda's MC18 NSR250R was powered by a 90° liquid-cooled 249cc v-twin backed up with a six-speed cassette gearbox and featured a more basic, easily-hackable version of Honda's PGM-II ignition system which, in this case, has already been modified to release somewhere in the neighborhood of 55-60hp, depending on who you ask. The MC18 unfortunately lacks the later model's asymmetrical "gull-arm" swingarm that allowed the bulging expansion chambers on the right side to tuck up close for maximum cornering clearance, but it is still an iconic machine.

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This example looks to be in excellent condition, with plenty of new parts as described in the listing. If you check out the seller's website, they do claim to do thorough inspections and even restorations of the bikes they sell, so it's not like you're showing up at the docks to pick up a bike that's possibly been thrashed by a teenager then left outside to corrode for the past twenty years. Their prices are higher than some I've seen on eBay recently, but they seem to have quality bikes for sale, and it helps to know there's someone in the continental US you can yell at if things go wrong...

From the original eBay listing: 1989 Honda NSR250R for Sale

MC18 R5K model from Moto2 Imports. Popular blue and white color scheme with just 8,900 miles. This bike has been fully mechanically restored with brand new tires, chain, spark plugs, re-built jets/needles, refurbished front forks & new fork seals. The fuel system has been flushed and cleaned and the whole bike has been treated for rust and corrosion removal. The engine has been professionally de-restricted and is now producing full power. All lights, indicators, and switches are in proper working order. Cosmetically, the bike is in excellent condition (see pics) and the plastics are all factory OEM. You will not be disappointed. Moto2 Imports is the country's number one importer of foreign sportbikes, specializing in two-strokes. Check out our website for more information and inventory!

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The seller also claims that the bike has a valid Washington State title with a VIN matching the frame number, which should hopefully give some peace of mind to bidders. And the fact that it has been professionally de-restricted is a big plus, since those extra ponies will be helpful at moving the potential extra mass of its new American rider... Among the Big Four, Hondas seem to be the most desirable, with commensurately higher prices to match. Bidding is very active on this one and already up to $5,000 with the Reserve Not Met, with The Buy It Now set at $6,599 which seems to be right on the money currently for a US-titled NSR250 in good condition.

-tad

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De-Restricted Import: 1989 Honda NSR250R MC18 R5K for Sale
Honda September 2, 2016 posted by

Featured Listing: 1994 Honda NSR250 SE for Sale

Update 9.4.2016: I've received word that this bike is now sold. Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

This Featured Listing is part of a set from the sellers for a VFR400, TZR250, and an NSR250. They are available for purchase as a group or individually. The sellers are available this labor day weekend for personal inspections in Southern California. -dc

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Competition may have been fierce in the 250cc two-stroke class, but it always seemed like it was Honda’s 800 pound gorilla that was setting the pace, with the others scrambling to keep up. Sure, there were plenty of fast bikes from Suzuki, Yamaha, and a couple years of krazy Kawasaki shenanigans, but the NSR250 seemed to define the class, and is certainly the most well-known bike. Today’s featured listing is the final iteration of the little sports Honda, and possibly the most desirable as well, the Honda NSR250 SE MC28.

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Built between 1994 and 1998, the MC28 was actually the heaviest of the series, as that very trick-looking single-sided swingarm added noticeable weight compared to the more conventional item. This SE "Super Edition" has most of the even rarer “Sport Production” edition goodies, with the SP’s dry clutch and adjustable suspension at both ends. It only lacked the SP’s magnesium wheels.

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The NSR250 MC28’s electronics weren’t as flashy as those very trick hard parts, but contained some of the bike’s most exotic technology. Introduced on 1987's MC18, Honda’s PGM interpreted throttle position and rpm to simply adjust the RC “Revolutionary Controlled” Valve and air-correction circuit for improved midrange response. The Later PGM-II system added ignition timing to the magic box's repertoire and the bike ultimately could create a 3-D ignition map from the various sensor inputs, strange when you think of that technology combined with good old-fashioned carburetors.

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The MC28 version of the PGM-IV had the famous digital Smartcard in place of a key, and that card also stored ignition maps for the engine, along with a tiny gascap key that slotted into the corner! Want more performance for your racebike? Just get a real-deal HRC card and voila: 60hp! Unfortunately, that same technology means de-restricting the bike from the government-mandated 45hp can be devilishly difficult. Ideally, you’d just track down an original card, but that can be an expensive option or simply impossible.

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So while the MC28 might not be the lightest, or the fastest two-stroke, it is arguably one of the best-looking sportbikes of the era and is absolutely dripping innovative technology and Honda refinement.

From the Seller: 1994 Honda NSR250 SE (MC28)

$9,000 with 34,938km

Purchased in 2011 from RSBFS listing, CA titled & current registration, this NSR has the Tyga 300cc big bore kit & expansion chambers, upper triple clamp, and rearsets, fresh Dunlop Sportmax tires, and new fork seals & front pads. Oil injection intact. A few very minor fairing scuffs and cracks, this bike needs nothing, ready to ride.

Spares & Extras: used OEM bodywork pieces (upper cowl, R side panels & tail section), cowl stay, stock upper triple clamp & more.

A bit of quick math indicates that the bike has 21,709 miles on the clock. As I mentioned in the TZR250 listing, parts availability can be difficult for these grey-market bikes, and plenty of owners have already begun hoarding critical maintenance parts for the rarer models. I haven't tried to run one of these, but poking around the internet, one of the real advantages, besides the obvious Honda innovation and quality, is the relative parts availability in terms of aftermarket support for the NSR. Certainly, the other bikes in the class have their charms, Honda is, well: Honda. $9,000 is a big number for a little two-stroke, but the MC28 version of the NSR250 SE represents the pinnacle of the class in terms of technology and rarity, especially here in the USA, and that CA title is worth its weight in gold.

-tad

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Featured Listing: 1994 Honda NSR250 SE for Sale
Yamaha September 2, 2016 posted by

Featured Listing: CA-Titled 1989 Yamaha TZR250 3MA for Sale

Update 9.4.2016: I've received word that this bike is now sold. Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

This Featured Listing is part of a set from the sellers for a VFR400, TZR250, and an NSR250. They are available for purchase as a group or individually. The sellers are available this labor day weekend for personal inspections in Southern California. -dc

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Here in the USA, the 80s and 90s saw intense competition between the Japanese Big Four in the 600cc and 750cc classes, with the bikes seeing almost yearly updates to the roadbikes and fierce rivalries on track. Oveseas, the same sort of knife-fight-in-a-phone-booth competition was happening in the quarter-liter sportbike class, with little two-strokes like this TZR250 looking for any performance advantage to edge out its rivals.

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Earlier bikes in the class were mostly parallel-twins, although Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha were all running v-twins by the late 90s, all in an effort to maximize the slim performance benefits available. All featured cutting-edge technology, with lightweight aluminum beam frames, top-spec brakes, power valves, "banana" swingarms designed to maximize cornering clearance, and bulging expansion chambers. Later bikes even featured some seriously cutting-edge electronics, with Honda's PGM-III creating a three-dimensional ignition map for each cylinder, based on throttle-position, revs, and gear. The bikes all made similar power and weighed in at around 300lbs, with narrow powerbands and razor-sharp handling.

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Before moving to a v-twin with the 3XV, Yamaha experimented with the 3MA version of their TZR250 that used a parallel-twin configuration with the head reversed so the carburetors were up front and the exhausts faced to the rear. This mainly seems to have been a way to efficiently package the bike's exhausts: two-strokes rely on bulbous expansion chambers to make competitive power, and routing them under and around the engine and past the swingarm was challenging. Aside from some slightly bulging side-panels, the reverse-head 3MA solved that problem, and the stinger tips poking through the tail look very trick.

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The 3MA is a pretty exotic little bike and pretty rare outside Japan. Reliability is claimed to be no worse than any other 250cc two-stroke, but parts availability for this Japanese-market-only bike can be tricky. Looking for performance parts for your NSR250? Tyga's got a whole website worth of exhausts, engine kits, rearsets, and bodywork. The 3MA? Better brush up on your Japanese and get ready for long waits as parts ship from the other side of the world.

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From the seller: 1989 TZR250 3MA for Sale

7,614km Original owner, purchased new from EMI, CA titled & registration (currently on non-op), this TZR is basically stock except for custom ceramic coated expansion chambers with jetting to match, braided steel brake lines, rear fender eliminated, and has full tread Bridgestone Battlax BT014 tires. Oil injection intact. Rear lower corner of left side fairing damaged, not too visible, but needs repair. Has not been started in a while, but fuel system is dry, petcock recently rebuilt.

Spares & extras: Gearbox cassette, steering damper, & a few bits.

Comes with Pit Bull rear stand, fresh Yuasa battery and trickle charger, parts catalog, service manual, and more documentation. Pit Bull front stand is available.

$5900

In case you don't feel like doing math this morning, 7,614km works out to just 4,731 miles. The price is on the high side for a 3MA, but not by very much, and the bike's legal status and very low miles more than make up for it: I hear that it's possible to register these in California, but it can be expensive and difficult. This one saves you the trouble, and includes some spares to boot. It's not absolutely perfect cosmetically, but unless you're looking for a museum piece, this looks like a great example. I don't have the money or the space for another bike right now, but this one's making me wish I did.

-tad

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Featured Listing: CA-Titled 1989 Yamaha TZR250 3MA for Sale