Posts by tag: Super Sport

Ducati January 5, 2018 posted by

Pristine Entry-Level Italian: 2003 Ducati 620 Sport with Just 936 Miles!

Made for just two years between 2002 and 2003, the Ducati 620 Sport was intended as an affordable way into Ducati ownership for riders more interested in the Ducati brand than in actual speed. But Ducati being Ducati, they were unable to build a sporty bike that actually handled badly, and they managed to create an entry-level machine that encapsulated the best and worst of the brand. Of course, that means that it may not be ideal for the newer riders it was obviously targeting: the riding position is extremely aggressive for a bike with such modest ability, typical Ducati steering lock means an inconveniently large turning circle, and the suspension is harsh.

The silver and black on the 620 recalls the style of the original 1980s Pantah, which is closely related to the 620 Sport in more ways than one. The Pantah was the very first Ducati to be powered by their then-new 500cc L-twin that had the single overhead-cams driven by toothed rubber belts, instead of a complex arrangement of tower shafts and bevel gears. This change to belts meant the engines were simpler to produce, but at the cost of maintenance, since the rubber belts require regular replacement, a service that's ignored at the owner's peril: second-hand two-valve Ducatis are currently very cheap, but a wrecked engine can quickly turn your affordable exotic into a pricey proposition...

The 620 uses the crank from the 750 for a slight increase in displacement to 618cc and a bump in torque, compared to the earlier 583cc 600SS, while the addition of Marelli fuel-injection means a broader spread of power with fewer hiccups, compared to the original's carburetors. Like the Pantah, the 620 uses a five-speed gearbox and a wet clutch, instead of the 900's six-speed and dry clutch arrangement. A gearbox with fewer cogs in a smaller-engined bike might sound like a retrograde step, but the torquey, flexible v-twin works well with the wider ratios of the five-speed and the wet clutch means it will take more abuse, which is ideal for the newer riders and commuters dealing with traffic.

Although the bike is down on power compared to its bigger siblings and pretty much anything in the 600cc class, the 60 claimed horses and 29 lb-ft of torque mean the bike is responsive, if not particularly fast when you're hustling the 400lb machine through a set of curves, which is really where the Ducati shows its breeding. The fork and shock are relatively primitive and non-adjustable, but the bike shares its frame and basic geometry with the 900SS so handling is very good, even if the ride quality is a bit harsh, while a pair of Brembo calipers and discs up front mean stopping power on par with much more powerful machines.

Interestingly, these rare bikes seemed to get snapped up by racers looking for an affordable v-twin platform to modify into a production race bike when they come up for sale. You may be thinking, "Why the hell would you do that when there are loads of liquid-cooled, four-valve Suzuki SV650s lying around?" Apparently, the Ducati's sporty frame geometry makes for a better-handling foundation, and I'm sure there are also some weight penalties imposed on the more sophisticated SV to keep racing close.The air and oil-cooled, two-valve twin responds very well to tuning and is supposedly much more reliable than the Suzuki unit as well, especially when used in racing applications.

From the original eBay listing: 2003 Ducati 620 Sport for Sale

Collectors dream! 2003 Ducati 620 SuperSport with 936 original miles!

I purchased the bike from the original owner with 580 miles on it who had it stored in a climate controlled garage.

No wreck or "tip over" damage, stock original except for some tasteful decals the original owner added on, I just left them on.

Clear NC title in my name.

Owned by mature 55 year old, I'm needing to change to a different riding position so selling my sporting motorcycles.

No wheelies, no gearbox abuse, no track use, just country roads near my house.

No smoking or weird engine noises. Starts, idles, shifts gears and runs as new.

No leaks of any kind, oil, fuel, forks, brakes.

Stock motorcycle, no intake, fuel, exhaust or electrical modifications, no aftermarket computers, no headers, none of that stuff

Recent maintenance performed:

Oil and filter change
Timing Belts
Spark plugs
Brake fluid change (with new Ducati caps and seals on reservoirs)
Internal rubber fuel lines (OEM Ducati)
Fuel filter (Mahle)
Tires (Shinko 009 Radials)
Yuasa MF battery
Kaoka cruise control

Chain and sprockets still as new, no rips or tears on seat, windshield nice and clear.

Mufflers have no dings or scratches.

Inside fuel tank perfectly clean, no rust, no sealant. Some very small scratches on top of tank near filler, hard to see but if you look closely at the photo of right side of tank you can make them out.

Still has a full set of original keys, owners manuals,tool kit, owners card,etc. as shown in photo. Also still have the original key fobs from the factory with ID numbers.

Sale also includes Factory Service manual and a Haynes manual.

It is ready to ride, collect or display, a beautiful time capsule Ducati.

Runs great, just had it out last week for a ride in nice weather. The motorcycle rides great, nice and smooth, gears change effortlessly. It is ready to ride and needs nothing... No disappointments here!

Motorcycle is located near the coast of NC, if you would like to see in person let me know.

This thing is pretty immaculate, as you'd expect from a bike with just 936 miles on the odometer. I'm not sure the matte silver really flatters the lines of the Terblanche-styled SuperSport, but it's certainly more subtle than the usual red or yellow. Bidding hasn't even reached $2,500 yet with the reserve met and time left on the auction. So whether you plan to buy this nearly museum-quality Super Sport as a rider, an odd footnote to complete your air-cooled Ducati collection, or as the raw material for forging a class-dominating v-twin race bike, this looks like a pretty good place to start. Although it would be a shame to chop it up... Power will never really be much to write home about, but a quick stop on eBay will turn up some nice, used suspension bits from a 900 or 1000 SuperSport that should bolt up easily and improve the bike's handling further.

-tad

Pristine Entry-Level Italian: 2003 Ducati 620 Sport with Just 936 Miles!
Ducati December 19, 2017 posted by

Almost New: 1998 Ducati 900SS FE with 867 Miles for Sale

Hmmmmm, the text from the listing for this Ducati 900SS FE looks strangely familiar... One of the surprising things about having been writing these posts for the past few years is how often my words show up in sellers' listings. I probably shouldn't be encouraging folks to use my writing for free but, to be completely honest, I'm still more flattered than offended at this point. The main problem is that it means I have to come up with some other theme for my post...

Up until Ducati's most recent iteration, things were always pretty dicey for them financially and, on more than one occasion, they were reduced to trading on nostalgia to make ends meet. By 1978, Ducati's bevel-drive twin was massively outdated, but a lucky win at the Isle of Man TT by Mike "The Bike" Hailwood meant they could flog some fully-faired and gloriously red and green Hailwood-replicas  and keep the lights on. It's a very cool machine in retrospect, but on the eve of the GSX-R750's introduction, it looks like a dinosaur. A very cool dinosaur, but a dinosaur nonetheless. Similarly, by the late 1990s, Ducati's air and oil-cooled Super Sport bikes still had plenty of charm and charisma, but offered little to appeal to modern sportbike fans.

Even when new, the 900SS offered minimal handing advantages compared to a Japanese sportbike that would leave it for dead in a straight line. But Ducati obviously couldn't sell enough of their expensive, exotic liquid-cooled models to make ends meet, and the design soldiered on for riders who wanted to pretend they preferred the "mechanical honesty of a classic, air-cooled engine" [it does sound better than the liquid-cooled version] or those who were more honest about the fact that they were terrified of the four-valve Ducatis' expensive service requirements, but still wanted a genuine Italian motorcycle.

It's a bit disingenuous to try and capitalize on nostalgia for a bike that would obviously continue in a newer, better form. But right before the 1999 release of heavily-revised, fuel-injected version styled by Pierre Terblanche Super Sport, Ducati released the "Final Edition" of the earlier, chunky, rubber-cambelt v-twin sportbike to cash in on the looming demise of the well-loved but obsolete model before it was replaced. Although when you consider the critical reaction to the updated model, it makes a bit more sense. The FE featured a solo tail to save weight and allow the fitment of upswept exhausts for better cornering clearance. Adjustable suspension front and rear was decent, and the standard two-valve engine in standard tune was good for the standard 80hp. Ergonomics are very humane for anyone weaned on late model sportbikes, and the seemingly limited power is plenty to have fun with on canyon roads.

From the original eBay listing: 1998 Ducati 900SS FE for Sale

Time Capsule! Mint Condition, Torque For Days, Beautiful Ducati! Only 867 miles... yes you read that right. #288 of only 300 made

The 90s iteration of Ducati's famous SuperSport wasn't exactly a fast bike, even by standards of the day. And by the time the Ducati 900SS "Final Edition" rolled around, it likely appealed mostly to die-hard Ducati fans and collectors. Which is a shame because, although the 900SS didn't offer cutting-edge performance, it did offer plenty of charisma, great handling, and accessible real-world performance.

The chase for abstract performance numbers has always obsessed the world of motorcycles and cars. But the truth is that peak horsepower numbers are often pointless. Since these machines are only fully exploited by .01% of riders, and what works in ad copy isn't always all that useful on the road, it's not always the most powerful bikes that make the most rewarding bikes to ride, especially on the road. Look at the endless praise heaped on the K5 GSX-R1000 by modern reviewers and see how this year's Brutale 800 actually produces less horsepower than the previous version to make it a better roadbike, and it becomes easier to see why this Ducati might win your heart, even if it won't win any bench-racing sessions...

Powered by Ducati's long-lived two-valve Pantah engine, the FE featured a solo-seat tail that allowed upswept pipes for increased cornering clearance and some carbon-fiber parts ostensibly because of their light weight, although the savings on a front fender are probably negligible... With a claimed 80hp on tap and a big fat midrange these are very rewarding to ride stock and a huge range of aftermarket support means you can modify the bike to suit if that's more your thing.

This thing appears to be bone-stock, with under 1,000 miles on the clock, and bidding is up just north of $6,000 with very little time on the auction. It might have been laughable just a few years ago to consider the FE particularly collectible or desirable, but these have definitely increased in value in recent years, and this very low-mileage example should get the attention of collectors. It's sad that such a usable sportbike has been basically accumulating dust, but I'm glad examples like this exist for folks more interested in displaying their bikes than riding them.

-tad

Almost New: 1998 Ducati 900SS FE with 867 Miles for Sale
Honda October 13, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1979 Honda CBX with Matching Helmet!

Update 10.27.2017: SOLD! Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

In 1978 Honda stunned the motorcycling world with a technological tour de force. The six cylinder, 24 valve CBX was the most ambitious - and the most visceral - Honda project to date. Dominated by an air-cooled inline format mounted transversely, this Honda made a statement like no other. And while Benelli introduced the world's first production six cylinder motorcycle, Honda completely owned it and made it their own. Seemingly an engineering exercise that got out of hand, the Honda CBX remains a remarkable piece of machinery. It is coveted by collectors as well, with prices following suit.

A bit portly at 600+ pounds wet, the CBX was considered a superbike at it's 1978 introduction. Part of that reason is that the world had never seen anything like it. With more than 105 HP on tap, the big bike was as strong in performance as it was stunning to look at. While you might not know it by looking, the big six was actually an evolution of the 50cc and 125cc GP race bikes of the 1960s and early 1970s. Honda claimed this lineage not only aided in meeting the performance targets of the 1047cc, 24-valve DOHC inline six cylinder, but also dramatically shortened the gestation period since this was a route already well traveled by Honda engineers. As a promotional stunt Honda provided bikes to the Isle of Man TT, which were utilized by course marshals and made a statement as to the sporting intent of the flagship Honda. Capable at the dragstrip, decent on the road course (especially endurance events), and at home at any boulevard in the nation, the CBX delivered on Honda's promise of engineering excellence.

From the seller:
1979 Honda CBX

This CBX bike comes from BAC, the famous automotive and motorcycle collection. In the early 2000s the owner of a famous automobile collection decided that post war 1970s and 1980s motorcycles were some of the most unappreciated classic bikes and set out to buy the best of the best of all the iconic bikes. The owner is nearing 80 years old and has decided to sell off his collection of Italian and Japanese classic bikes of the 1970s and 1980s.

More from the seller:

The CBX in this ad took him three years of traveling across the country to find the best CBX he could find. While the bike has just under 10,000 miles on it, the current owner is the second owner. The previous owner who purchased the bike new only drove it on sunny days and it has never seen a drop of rain or any major dust or dirt. Everything is original bike except for the bearings in the rear swing axle. The bike even has a matching color Honda period correct helmet. The owner says without a question; this has to be one of the finest CBXs in the nation. It runs perfectly and has never been taken apart and nothing sounds like a Honda CBX when it is winding up through the gears.

More from the seller:
The owner said in his opinion the most important part of any collector bike is the mufflers as they are almost in all cases impossible to reproduce. The mufflers on this CBX are immaculate.

This bike also comes with a matching helmet!

This 1979 Honda CBX is located in Chicago land: $14,500

From the pictures of the enormous engine, you might think you need to be a bow-legged cowboy to ride one. But thanks to intelligent design, that is not the case. Not only did Honda cant the cylinder bank forward some 30 degrees, the intake setup is arranged in a vee format to further narrow the bike's midsection; despite engine dimensions, there is plenty of room for the rider. And with a jack-shaft arrangement that moves ancillary components from the ends of the crank to behind the motor, the CBX is not nearly as wide as you might otherwise imagine.

Built from 1978 through 1982, the CBX was but one of the incredible models that Honda created during this wild time; other examples include CX500 Turbo, CX650 Turbo and later the V45 Interceptor. Yet the more conventional CB900F was the real showroom performer, outselling the engineering oddities by a large margin. As a result, the CBX remains a relatively rare model. Yet it still presents an amazing sight, and continues to stun today. The 1979 Honda CBX shown here is a low mile example. More importantly, this is a a completely original example that was recently liberated from a larger collection. If you are in the market for a 1970s collectable Honda, you want to source the cleanest, best example you can find. This particular machine meets those specs easily. The asking price is $14,500.

MI

Featured Listing: 1979 Honda CBX with Matching Helmet!
Ducati September 22, 2017 posted by

Less Popular Duck: 1992 Ducati 750SS

The 1990s were good for Ducati and Ducatsi alike. On the Superbike side, the 851 paved the way for the 888 and the amazing 916. But it was the offerings across the Super Sport line that really broadened the marque's appeal. Consider the original 900SS, augmented by the Super Light (SL), the Sport Production (SP), and the Cafe Racer (CR) in both full and half fairing versions. The CR model was further bifurcated into the 900SS and the 750SS. The latter is one of the most under rated motorcycles from Bologna - and quite limited in numbers (i.e. rare) in its own right.

1992 Ducati 750SS for sale on eBay

Essentially a 900SS CR model on a diet, the 750 SS offers the same visceral motoring experience as its bigger brother. Sure, it makes due with a few less cubic centimeters and a couple of fewer ponies (66 vs 84 HP), but the ride is essentially the same. It utilizes the same air cooled L-twin, spins its cams by rubber belts, and opens the valves in the same Desmo manner. By the numbers, the 750SS is nearly 20 pounds lighter with the remainder of the running gear and chassis being identical. The 750 model, as a result of its lighter weight and lower power numbers, achieves braking performance via a single disk up front. What you give up is approximately 3-4 tenths down the quarter mile, and about 10-12 mph of top speed. The rest is pure Ducati goodness in a more rare format.

From the seller:
1992 Ducati 750SS Great Shape, runs great just had carbs cleaned and new fork seals. Left side fairing has been repaired no decals have been replaced, right side fairing has some spiedering around bolt hole, scratches on left side exhaust a couple of small scratches where seat is rubbing see photos. over all bike is in great shape.

The Ducati Super Sport lineup is a popular one. Parts are plentiful, as is knowledge of how to service and maintain these machines. Because the 750SS is based on the 900, many parts are interchangeable. So popular was this model that in European markets there is also a 350cc, 400cc and 600cc model - which are all patterned after this 750SS. The Super Sport is the kind of motorcycle that has the bones to last; it may not be the fastest in a straight line, but with gobs of torque, a stiff chassis and willing suspension, a 750SS can motor very swiftly indeed.

Today's bike is the rare 750cc variant. The seller claims that it has a new left side fairing, and the exhaust has some scratches on the same side. That is pretty convincing evidence of a tip over - but does not necessarily mean a high speed off. This era Ducati has a spring-loaded kickstand that retracts as soon as the bike is picked up. Many bikes suffer inadvertent cosmetic damage in this manner, always on the left. It would not shock me to discover that this damage is minor and the result of the infamous self-retracting stand. Otherwise it looks to be in good shape, has reasonable miles (these bikes beg to be ridden), and is available for what feels like a song. You might wish to inquire as to the whereabouts of the original mirrors, however. This bike is not likely to appreciate any time soon, but it will always be appreciated; you would be hard pressed to find a more solid, long-term bike for your stable. Check it out here, and be sure and jump back to the Comments to share your thoughts. Have you ever been bitten by the wretched Ducati self-retracting stand? Let us know. Good Luck!!

MI

Less Popular Duck: 1992 Ducati 750SS
Ducati September 13, 2017 posted by

Classic Heavy Metal: 1980 Ducati Super Sport for Sale

Although it's date-stamped as a 1980 model, this Ducati 900 Super Sport is obviously a sportbike from an even earlier era: twin-shock suspension aside, the engine features vintage, half-faired style and nearly Victorian-era detailing on the engine. A bit of a throwback, this machine is nonetheless significant to modern sportbike fans, as it was the more commonly available update of the original 750 Super Sport that was Ducati's first foray into big sportbikes. These early Super Sports were basically ground zero for the company as it exists today, especially significant as we're now staring down the barrel of the end of Ducati's v-twin superbikes with the introduction of their MotoGP-aping V4.

The 900 Super Sport was introduced in 1975 as an evolution of their iconic, but very limited-production 750 Super Sport. It used an updated version of their overhead-cam, air-cooled v-twin, here punched out to 864cc and fitted with the restyled "square" engine cases to replace the "round" cases on the 750. Keep in mind that, up until the introduction of the rubber-belt Pantah engine, it was only the Super Sport models that had Ducati's spring-less Desmo valve actuation. Combined with a system of tower shafts and bevel gears to drive the cams instead of chains or belts, the "bevel-head" v-twin engine was more Swiss watch than propulsion system, and manufacturing costs were unsurprisingly high, a major reason for the switch to rubber belts.

Aside from the increased displacement, the 900SS featured a number of changes intended to broaden the bike's appeal for the US market, with modern cast aluminum wheels, a quieter exhaust [blasphemy!], improved kick start, and the gearshift redesigned for the left side of the bike. Earlier examples with left-foot shifter used a cumbersome linkage to convert the bike from its original right-foot shift and the new mechanism was much more precise. Originally, the bike came in classic silver with blue graphics, with the black-and-gold scheme seen here introduced in 1979. This particular example has aftermarket bar-end mirrors fitted that are obviously not period-correct, but pretty innocuous and easily removed if you're going for the original, mirror-less style. The engine also features a clear glass "Gear-Gazer" for the upper cylinder's bevel-drive gears, and aftermarket addition but one I'd probably want for myself, originality be damned.

 

From the original eBay listing: 1980 Ducati 900 Super Sport Desmo for Sale

17,066 original miles – Collector owned

Restored to Perfection in 2015

History:

After the round case twins 750 GT, Sport and Super Sport Desmo entered the scene, Ducati management found that the line-up lacked a super sport bike capable of competing with the Japanese superbikes with over 750 cc and the Ducati 900 Super Sport was developed to fill that gap.

Initially, Ducati opted for a more touring-oriented approach, with the 860 GT styled by Giugiaro, that unfortunately did not win the public’s favour. At the same time, however, the Bolognese manufacturer also introduced a sportier version, the 900 Super Sport, reminiscent of the sales success of the gorgeous 750 SS Desmo.
The 860 cc engine was derived from the original L-twin engine conceived for the 750 GT, however with a redesigned, more squared case.

Throughout its history, the 900 SS actually underwent few modifications, from the fuel tank to the light-alloy wheels, and was offered in a gold and black livery, in addition to the classic silver and electric blue colour scheme.

Asking Price: $35,500 obo.

The Buy It Now is listed at $35,500 and for that kind of cash, I'd like a little less "brief history that we probably already know" and more information on the who-what-where of the "restoration." Describing something simply as "restored to perfection" is the kind of thing that can mean different things to different people, although I'd expect that the seller would be happy to answer any questions, and the bike looks terrific in the photographs.

-tad

Ducati May 30, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing – 1997 Ducati 900SS/CR

6.26.2017: The seller has notified us that this bike has sold to one of our readers. Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

Subject of - this - RSBFS feature back in January, the new owner of this very mint CR has misgivings about putting miles on such a showpiece, and would like to make it available to a collector. A very special 900SS, this Cafe Racer has only 730 miles, and was a display item for most of its youth.  A powerful argument for back to basics motoring, the 900SS/CR has the brilliant desmodue engine, fully accessible under the half-fairing.

 

Engineered to be at the bargain end of the 900cc spectrum, the CR came to the showroom without carbon fiber bits or adjustable suspension, but had the chassis and lightness of the 900 desmodue, and nothing you didn't need.  Ducati hallmarks like trellis frame, dry clutch, and big Brembo brakes are on board, and the riding position is purposeful.  Most often seen in red, this CR scooped the yellow used on next year's SuperLight.

 

This 900 is in pretty special condition, the dusty gold frame matching the tempered stainless exhaust nicely.  Painted parts are unmarked, and I'm not seeing any aftermarket parts, most owners would have found a need to change something. The owner notes that even the original seat is included.  Even the stickers and decals haven't aged a bit.  The Florida owner had this to say in his discussions with RSBFS -

"I bought it because I fell in love with it at first sight. But it is so rare and unique, because of the ultra low mileage, that I hesitated to put any miles on it. I have had it for nearly 4 months and I have put 5.6 miles on it. I will give the opportunity for a serious Ducati collector to own it...

Price: $9900. Jacksonville, Florida"

 

One of the final years of the Tamburini style, the SuperSports would be rounded by Pierre Terblanche for 1999.  The angular and aggressive stance of the 90's SS matched the booming exhaust note and no-nonsense presentation.  Often said to be a future classic, at twenty years of age, the 900SS/CR might be about to arrive. 

-donn

 

 

Featured Listing – 1997 Ducati 900SS/CR




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