Posts by tag: RC30

Honda September 12, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: Ex-Jim Granger 1990 Honda RC30

Update 9.12.2017: Price reduced to $28,500. Good luck to buyers and seller! -dc

Jim Granger is widely considered royalty among the cognoscenti in U.S Honda RC30 circles, having owned and tweaked a raft of the rare V4 beasts over the years. What you see here is a 1990 Honda RC30 that Jim owned for the better part of its life, adding go bits from the HRC parts bin along the way.

We can't say for sure which one of Jim's RCs this is, but check out this forum post describing power figures for a brace of mild and wild RCs he built at some point:

Jim Granger's RC30: 123rwhp skimmed block, stock pistons, stock cams,
un-cut stock heads HRC spec porting, HRC exhaust, flatslides, HRC ignition

Jim Granger's 133rwhp RC30: Same as previous plus custom stainless valves
(std size), race spec valve job, 91 HRC cams, multiple
assemble/disassemble "clearancing" . Dyno fuel flow indicated 1 jet lean,
approximate 3 hp per operator.

Seller Jay told us this bike's engine has never been opened, so we wouldn't expect those numbers from it, but keep reading to see the tasty pieces it did pick up in Granger's stewardship.

The predecessor to the also-legendary RC45, RC30s found glory both in short-circuit superbike racing and on the longer, scarier road courses of England and Northern Ireland with names like Robert and Joey Dunlop aboard.

The grocery list of rare and unobtainable parts on this bike is very long, but includes HRC jet kit, radiators, rear shock, fork internals, wheels, a Moriwaki dry clutch setup and a one-off Yoshimura exhaust. The changes, though subtle, are wide-ranging and strategic, and will give the bike slightly more than the stock 118 horsepower and sharpen its responses on all fronts.

No internal modifications also mean the engine has never had to come apart for any reason, and in true Honda fashion, it has performed reliably with regular maintenance. It is also fully street legal, and retains the stock clipons, rearsets, turn signals and lights. It is decidedly not superbike-spec, and that makes it almost more desirable.

The seller says Jim owned and rode the bike for more than 20 years, adding about 10,000 road miles to the clock in that time. The mileage currently reads just over 21,000, but Jay says about half of those miles came from Granger adding mileage to the odo in order to register the bike in California.

In Jay's words:

Jim Granger's 1990 RC30

This was Jim's personal RC30 from 1991 till 2014 when I bought it. Jim is the US RC30 guru, no one can question his love or knowledge of these bikes. I've ridden it about 800 miles, 50 in the last week. Most of its time with me it was on display in my buddy's office or living room.

This girl has history, some of it I might get wrong, hopefully Jim will correct me. Jim bought it from someone in the southwest and had to add almost 10,000 miles to the odometer the register it in California. Then it spent it's time in his shop and in the mountains of So-Cal racking up another 10,000 or so miles, the current Odo reading is 21,537. When I bought her she had been "sleeping" for a few years in his shop, he woke her back up with fresh fluids, tires and anything else she needed. Recently I changed the oil and bled the brakes and clutch and replaced the battery, she is ready to ride.

She has a bunch of cool parts in this list, but I bet I missed a few:

HRC 17" Magnesium wheels
HRC full floating and vented front rotors with HRC calipers
HRC front axle
HRC fork internals with external adjusters
HRC Radiators and Temp gauge
HRC jet kit (I think)
Moriwaki DRY CLUTCH ) (imagine a Japanese refined Ducati dry clutch sound, F'ing musical)
HRC Aluminum bodied rear shock
HRC rear ride height adjuster
A one off Yoshimura full exhaust with a period carbon can
PFM iron rear rotor
HRC breather tank
Modified rear subframe
Braided lines
Aftermarket 520 chain and sprockets
A lot cool aluminum hardware here and there

She has a lot of the practical stock parts, like the stock rear sets, stock clip-ons and bar-ends, stock turn signals and lights. She is just as comfortable and easy to ride as the day she left the factory. Her motor is stock, has never been removed or apart and has never had any problems. A bunch of the cool parts came from Freddie Spencer's RC30 program like the wheels, clutch and suspension.

This girl has been meticulously cared for, she has never been crashed, never fallen off the stand or anything like that. But she does have a few blemishes, look carefully at the pictures, ask questions, I want to make sure you know what you are getting. I've taken over 30 pictures, the latest one after I rode her to work this morning (8/21/17). The upper hasn't been painted, but the pearl white is a bit off, maybe it was kept near the welder or got some extra sun. The bike has a few chips and marks but nothing besides the pearl white really worth highlighting. Take a look at how great the fork lowers look, she is in great shape. What you see is what you get, she doesn't include any other parts (except her factory rear stand), no tool kits or manuals.

Ask questions, ask for pictures, please understand what this bike is and what you are buying. Asking $30,000. Jay@boonehonda.com

If that email results in a bounce, use Jay@motorcycleleatherexchange.com

The $30,000 $28,500 asking price is a big number, to be sure, but RC30s are only getting rarer, and this one is in largely unmolested condition, and comes with the provenance of Jim Granger in its ownership history. For more pictures or to make an offer, contact Jay directly at the address above.

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Featured Listing: Ex-Jim Granger 1990 Honda RC30
Honda May 11, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1991 Honda VFR400R NC30 for Sale

A little brother in terms of displacement and a virtual twin in terms of style, Honda's NC30 packs the same technological punch as the famed RC30 in a smaller package. And like the RC30, the NC30 was designed to homologate a motorcycle for racing, although in this case it was for classes with a 400cc capacity limit. Here in the USA, the 400cc sportbike class is barely represented at all, with examples only occasionally appearing as the result of intrepid collectors or Canadian smugglers sneaking bikes in across our northern border. In the US, they were basically bikes without a racing class, and expensive ones to boot: they had all the complexity, and therefore cost, of their bigger 600 and 750cc brothers, without the straight line performance.

1991 Honda VFR400R NC30 for sale on eBay

Sure, they handled with all the agility you'd expect but, when a 600cc sportbike is considered "a great first bike" you're not going to find many takers for a 400. Of course, it was another story entirely outside the USA and especially in Japan, where tiered licensing and heavy taxes on bigger bikes meant a great deal of interest in the 400cc class as roadbikes and the relevant racing series, and bikes like the CBR400, GSX-R400, and ZXR400 competed fiercely.

So what are we looking at in terms of that reduced performance? Well you're not taking quite as big a hit as you might expect: the NC30 produced 59 claimed horses, versus the RC30's 118, 313lbs dry versus 400lbs, and a top speed of 130mph versus 153. So you've got a bike with almost half the displacement but with far more than half the performance, mostly due to that very light weight. What's possibly far more surprising than the performance differential between the two are the relatively low numbers for the famed RC30... Both machines featured six-speed gearboxes and the NC30 got a 360° "big bang" crank to match its bigger brother along with gear-driven cams, so you get the distinctive V4 soundtrack and wide powerband that helps make them such popular trackday bikes overseas.

From the seller: 1991 Honda VFR400R NC30 for Sale

For your consideration is a GORGEOUS almost mint condition 1991 Honda VFR400R NC-30 with only 10,823 Kilometers (6,725 miles). Bike is very clean and well taken care of. Bike would be flawless except for the crack in the lower fairing under the bike. It has been repaired. Has a three tiny paint chip marks in the tank, and the left rear fairing has a rub mark on it from transportation & shipping (see pics.) This NC30 has 100% original OEM Honda fairings and components and is completely stock except for a few racing sponsor decals that can be easily removed. This bike would make an ideal candidate for restoration or enjoy it in its original condition... Bike has been serviced with new battery, new oil, coolant and filters serviced. Runs like the day it was new. A Utah state title in my company name will be presented to the buyer.

This particular machine appears to be in the same sort of condition as the seller's other offerings: not completely perfect, but in low mileage, extremely well cared-for condition. There are a couple of minor cracks in the fairing that are clearly indicated by the seller, and wear is limited to some minor surface corrosion and discoloration. Not museum-quality perhaps, but a very good-looking machine for someone who plans to occasionally ride the bikes in their collection. With the RC30 now out of the reach of ordinary enthusiasts, prices of the NC30 are on the rise as well and offer up a similar style and experience at an affordable price. For the moment at least.

-tad

Featured Listing: 1991 Honda VFR400R NC30 for Sale
Honda May 10, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1990 Honda RC30!

Update 5.15.2017: SOLD in just 5 days. Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

When it comes to collecting, the Honda RC30 (i.e. VFR750R) is one for the ages. This is perhaps THE most collectable bike available insofar as modern machinery goes. With sensuous curves, striking paint and race-bred features, the RC30 is the ultimate homologation bike and the real deal on the street. Powered by a V-4 with gear-driven cams (oh, the music!) and titanium connecting rods, the RC30 was first released in Japan in 1988, followed shortly by a European version. Ultimately, this rare bit of unobtanium came to America as a 1990 model.

Released in order to qualify for the inaugural FIM Superbike racing series - where racing motorcycles are required to be based off of a street bike - the RC30 dominated the first season out. "Flyin" Fred Merkel had the piloting honors in 1988, and followed up with a repeat victory season in 1989. By that time, the legend of the RC30 had been secured. It seems that wherever the RC30 showed up, it won; be it the Superbike circuit, the Isle of Man TT, or the showroom. An estimated 3,000 bikes were produced, and carried the absurd price tag of approximately $15k USD. Today, that number seems like a bargain - if you can find one. This RC30 is being sold by a RSBFS reader and fan who found this bike right here on these pages. I'll let him pick up the story:

From the seller:
1990 RC30 - 49 state model - 3,540 miles. New battery, brake and clutch fluids. All original. Includes rear stand, tool kit, and 4 NOS Honda spark plugs. I also have the original tires, if you would like them for display purposes. This rare bird was last registered in 1994 in NY (there is a sticker on the left fork leg).

For some reason, it was put into long-term storage, then later sold to a man in Portland OR from whom I bought the bike. I have had the 30 for 5 years, but am moving and don’t have space for it in the next garage.

Study the photos - this machine is almost cosmetically perfect - it has a tiny chip in the paint on the fairing which I’ve photographed, a scratch on the bottom of the belly pan, and some slight discoloration at the bottom rear of the belly pan (I attempted to get it out using mirror glaze, but to no avail) - the discoloration is so minor I can’t get a decent photo of it. These tiny imperfections were present when I purchased the bike.

I put fresh fuel into it today, and it fired up immediately (see video). Now, the caveat - when it fired up, it also leaked some fuel due to a stuck float in one of the carburators (turn off the petcock and the leak stops - I cleaned the bike to remove any fuel residue). I’m a sorry excuse for a mechanic, and I’m not anxious to take this jewel to our local shop, so I’m selling it as it is, and the new owner will need to service the float.

Video of RC30 startup:

I am a Rare sports bike fan, and that’s how I found RC30 #37. I am hoping it goes to someone who will truly appreciate its originality, as I have.

RSBFS finds and posts the best sport bikes found for sale every day. But it's not every day that you come across as original and protected an example of "rare sport bike" as this beautifully cared for RC30. Yes, there may need to be some sorting out of the carbs (if you are keen to ride this unicorn) - but that seems to be proof that the bike really hasn't been fueled or run in a long time, and is all original as claimed. Gotta give props to full disclosure.

Tim is accepting offers on this beauty right now. Send him an email with your best shot (tmerrill@fulcrumlegal.com), and see if you can't add the most collectable modern sport bike to your collection. Good luck!!

Featured Listing: 1990 Honda RC30!
Yamaha April 17, 2017 posted by

Collector Alert: 1989 Yamaha FZR750RR/OW-01 with 741 miles

1989 Yamaha FZR-750RR/OW-01 for sale on ebay

Most collectors of homologation bikes place the Yamaha FZR750RR/OW-01 near the top of their lists, along with the Honda RC30 and Kawasaki ZX7RR and...whats that you say, you don't understand all the fuss about homologation bikes?   Well I don't see any big blue police boxes or dogs named Peabody around so I guess I will just have to do my best to go explain the historical significance of these machines.

In the late 1980's race series organizers and major manufacturers agreed that it was in both of their interests if race bikes were more closely based on bikes that people could actually buy.  The thinking was this would keep fan interest, cut down on development costs and weed out money losing engineer flights of fancy (i'm looking at you, Norton rotary).  The adage of the day was "a win on Sunday equals sales on Monday".  But the major manufacturers engineer departments were still charged with winning and made the legitimate point that race bikes had very different performance needs from standard street machines.  In the end a compromise was reached; racebikes would still have to be based on a bike available for sale to the general public but the base bike could be a limited edition series that was equipped with the same components as the bikes that would be used on the racetrack, including racetrack level frames, engines and suspensions.  The limited edition bikes had to be able to be able to pass emissions and run legally on the street but could otherwise essentially be race bikes with lights and a license plate.  This agreement became known as the homologation rule and bikes from the era are referred to as homolgation bikes.


Okay, so they had some track-oriented tech, but you still don't see what's the big deal?  Consider this - a factory racetrack-level motorcycle has components that are hellishly expensive to develop and produce, the prices for one of these limited edition/homolgation bike was usually significantly higher than a standard street version.  The OW-01 had a list price of about $16,000 USD, which back in 1989 was equal to about a year of private college tuition.  And even with their high prices the street legal homologation machines were often unprofitable for the manufacturers so to cut down on losses the production run was typically a very small number of bikes.  For the FZR750RR/OW-01, production was 500 units over two years. But while Yamaha's 750cc powered machine was pricey and parts would always be a challenge, anyone who bought one did actually get something quite special: titanium rods, twin-ring pistons, an aluminum tank with a track ready fuel filler were all wrapped up in a beautiful hand welded frame. This was then combined with Ohlins suspension, magnesium brake calipers and quick detach sub-frame and axle release clamps.

And best of all, these track-oriented goodies weren't just for show. While not quite as successful as its main rival the Honda RC30, the FZR-750RR was used as the basis of multiple World Superbike wins, a British Sport Bike (BSB) title, set an Isle of Man TT lap record and was ridden to victory in the 1993 Daytona 200.

So in summary, homologation bikes were an opportunity for mere mortals to experience what a true race bike was like. They were also quite rare from a price and production number perspective and many were bought by privateer racers and then actually used on the track. This means that finding one today in pristine condition is quite a challenge and given that the primary rare sport bike criteria are condition, number produced, historical significance and technology, its only natural that the OW-01 always causes a fuss/is a big deal to collectors.

As for this FZR750RR/OW-01, a  quick look at the pictures in this auction show that the seller is a big fan on the late 1980's/early 1990's homolgation bikes.   The seller indicates a recent freshening of items which together with the low mileage means this one is a good option for someone building a collection.

Here is an overview of what the seller has to say

  • New battery,new fork seals and fork oil, new spark plugs
  • Fresh fluids including engine oil, new coolant flush, new brake fluid, and original air filter was serviced.
  • Carburetor jets and needles are original and still comes with the factory jetting set from the factory.  Runs a little rich at my elevation (Utah) but will need nothing if your going to run it at sea level. If your in a high elevation state it will need jets and fine tuning.
  • Still has the original factory tires, however there are age cracks in the sidewalls.
  • Still has its original chain & sprockets with factory safety wire, original brake pads and all original fairings and factory components.
  • Air breather hose was replaced since the original was hard and cracked.
  • Slight ripple in the muffler that does not show up in photos, you would never know it if I didn't mention it to you but its there.  Muffler was chromed and re-finished to repair the tiny ding in it that you cannot see now.
  • There is patina here and there as you would expect from a 28 year old motorcycle.  Also there was a scratch protection pad on the tank at one time, since been removed but has left a clear residue behind from adhesion.
  • The original fuel tank cap was replaced with a NOS OEM Yamaha fuel cap due to a rough edge from being dropped on the ground in the past we believe. Original fuel cap is included with sale.

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So, now for the price question- what is this bit of homologation era history going to cost?  While the listing has an excellent level of detail and some services have been done, the condition is not perfect (note the cracks in the dash foam) and there is a need for fresh tires.  Recent examples of FZR750RR/OW-01 on RSBFS  show a price range of between $16,000 -$25,000 USD so the sellers Buy-It-Now price of $27,500 seems to be a bit optimistic.

My person opinion is that the value of this one is right about $23,000 USD,  Current bid is at about $12,600 USD with about 5 days on the auction left.  Unless the seller has a significantly lower reserve than the Buy-It-Now price I don't think one will sell on the auction but any interested parties might want to follow the listing on Ebay and reach out to the seller after it ends.  Then again, Ebay can be a funny thing and part of being a smart collector is knowing when to pull the trigger so if this one is on your list, it might be time to move.

 

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

Collector Alert:  1989 Yamaha FZR750RR/OW-01 with 741 miles
Honda December 26, 2016 posted by

Boxing Day Dream: 1989 Honda RC30 with 1,550 miles in the UK

1989 Honda RC30 for sale on ebay uk

Any RSBFS readers not familiar with the Honda RC30/VFR750R can read our previous RC30/VFR750R posts to learn about this legendary bike but to quickly summarize, Honda decided to show the world what it was capable of when all the limits (financial, manpower, etc) were ignored.  The result was the Honda RC30, a machine built to win and boy did it.  In just the 1st year after its introduction the result was pure domination with 15 of the 25 finishers in the top F1 class being on the new Honda.  As this was the homologation era, street versions also had to be available, an a total of 1,500 were produced each year over a 2 year production run.

A large block of the RC30's that were produced were dedicated to the Japanese market and this particular RC30 is apparently one of these Japanese editions but interestingly, is currently located in the UK.  Despite its travels, it is probably the most pristine/intact one we have had on RSBFS, with mileage at only 1,550 miles.

The pics* seems to match the mileage with the bike looking like it just came out of the factory.  The seller does mention some slight staining around the frame plate but this is not apparent in the pics and everything looks completely OEM/stock.   Given the low miles and the statement that this is a formerly japan market bike I would assume the Japan market CDI/top speed limiter is still installed but info on how to remove/replace it is available on the web so it would be fairly straightforward to enjoy the full RC30 experience.

*NOTE:  The listing includes both standard pics and additional classified ad pics which are located at the bottom of the ebay.co.uk listing.

The Honda RC30/VFR750R is one of those bikes that every serious collector wants to have in their collection.  It is probably the homologation bike that had the most top level track success, although the Ducati Desmosedici and Kawasaki ZX7-RR are both close runners up.  But even given its legendary success on the track and the pristine condition of this example the question remains; is this example worth the asking price of 28,000 GBP/$35,000 USD?  That price seemed a bit high at first but then again it is very unlikely you will see one for sale in this condition anytime soon and prices do seem to be steadily increasing.

I guess the question is what is this bikes destiny?  Is it already fated to exist only as a halo bike in a collection?  Or will its next owner give it some fresh fluids/rubber and do a bit of riding to see what all the fuss was about?  All I know is that if I was able to acquire this one, I would be in that second camp for at least a bit.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

Boxing Day Dream:  1989 Honda RC30 with 1,550 miles in the UK
Honda November 30, 2016 posted by

Little Brother: 1989 Honda VFR400R for Sale

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Looking very much like their very desirable VFR750R, the Honda VFR400R shares similar engine configuration, style, and that distinctive "PRO ARM" single-sided swingarm. The sophisticated V4 featured straight-cut gears in place of a chain or belt and drove twin overhead cams. Early VFR400s used a 180° crank, but the NC30 shared it's 360° "big bang" configuration with the VFR750, giving the bike a distinctive growl to go with the cultured whine of the gear-driven cams.

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A big-bang engine groups its combustion events close together, in stead of spreading them out evenly. In theory, this gives improved traction, as the tire has a chance to recover grip in between pulses, although that may not be a huge advantage in a bike with just 59hp and 30ft-lbs of torque... Power was modest, but had just 350lbs dry to push, and was spread across a very wide, forgiving powerband.

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These bikes didn't sell well when new, which wasn't really shocking: a period literbike could be had for similar cash and that huge increase in power could cover for a lot of sins on the road and on track. But that was hardly the point, and Honda only needed to produce a limited number to qualify them for racing. Originally intended for the Japanese market, a few made their way to the UK and mainland Europe as "parallel imports," these used to be very a very affordable way to pick up sophisticated Honda tech, but prices for these have been rapidly increasing of late, now that the RC30 is well out of reach for many collectors. Bidding on this example is north of $9,000 at this time, with the Reserve Not Met.

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From the original eBay listing: 1989 Honda VFR400R for Sale

The VFR400R(NC30) is known for its handling, turning quicker than most other 400s on the market. You don't have to ride the NC30 to know that it is right. Everything about it just looks right. The scaled-down version of the RC30 is perfect in it proportions and in its detail. The reduction in size makes it neater still.

The engine gives the impression of that of a larger machine. Peak torque is at 12,000rpm, but it doesn't drop off, giving a long, flexible spread of peak power. It will hold any top gear cruise speed up to 100mph, will pull wide open in top from 2,000rpm and runs without a hiccup to 15,000rpm.Asked whether the quality of engineering is worth owning, the answer would be yes. The build quality is nearly as good as the RC30.

This bike is in excellent un-restored condition with very low miles. I approach all my bikes with the idea of preservation over restoration. When purchasing a bike what I look for is low miles and all original, this bike fits those traits very nicely. Please examine the pictures very closely. You can see it has not been restored but it is an excellent original condition. There is some minor chips and patina showing that it is a 27 year old bike. The bike was recently cleaned from top to bottom. Everything was cleaned, all fluids changed, brakes bled and then put back together ready to ride. Here's a list of a few things that were done.

Wheels powder coated, forks rebuilt, new rotors and pads front and rear plus brakes bled, new tires Bridgestone T30's. All the plastics were cleaned and polished and the small cracks were welded on the back side so they won't crack any more than they already are. All the gauges and cockpit pieces were cleaned and polished. Brand new chain and sprockets

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The seller also includes this helpful startup video of the bike being offered, and the original listing includes plenty of additional photos if what we've included here doesn't satisfy your NC30 lust. Aside from a few minor cosmetic imperfections mentioned by the seller, this is a very nice motorcycle and 6,000 miles is barely broken-in for a Honda, so this one is ready to display or ride, whichever strikes your fancy.

-tad

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Little Brother: 1989 Honda VFR400R for Sale