Posts by tag: NSR250R

Honda June 25, 2017 posted by

Ride or Restore: 1993 Honda NSR250R SP MC21 for Sale

Some motorcycle enthusiasts are looking for a perfect, time-capsule example of their favorite bikes. Me? I'm glad perfect examples are out there for collectors, but I want something I can ride and enjoy without being worried that a tip-over or low-side or just a few extra miles on the odometer will destroy the value of some pristine collectible. Today's Honda NSR250R SP is a little rough around the edges, with some scratches and scuffs, but it seems like an honest bike, and very solid mechanically.

The NSR250 featured Honda's familiar 90° liquid-cooled 249cc v-twin with a six-speed "cassette" gearbox that allowed owners [or pit crews] to rapidly swap out gearsets to suit different race tracks. Obviously not all that useful on a road bike, but still pretty slick. The NSR may have sucked fuel through a set of carburetors, but it used a very sophisticated PGM-III system that controlled the bike's ignition based on throttle-position, revs, and gear selection.

This particular NSR250R is the desirable MC21 version of Honda's agile two-stroke, as indicated by the asymmetrical "gull-arm" aluminum swing arm that curves on the left-hand side to clear the exhaust's expansion chambers to maximize cornering clearance. The swingarm looks very trick, but helps make the MC21 a little bit heavier than the MC18 that preceded it. Dry weight is still under 300lbs, so even the bike's artificially-limited 45hp will move the bike out smartly, although I'd definitely check with the seller to see if the bike has been de-restricted, as anyone outside Japan will want the bike's full-power available.

From the original eBay listing: 1993 Honda NSR250R SP MC21 for Sale

20,441 Miles (32,898 Kilometers) This is a Very Rare only 900 made Last Model MC21 SP. Mostly original and unrestored.  Perfect opportunity for a budget minded MC21 SP for restoration. All fluids are fresh.  Shifts and revs to redline perfectly.  Starts effortlessly every time. OEM Fairings have hairline scratches and cracks. upper fairing has a broken section near the mirrors and the lower fairing has a section cut out near the expansion chambers along with a couple dents on the fuel tank near the stay, included close up pictures featuring defects. The Red on the tail fairing doesn’t match each other exactly also. No respray or rattle can. Red Magtek wheels are in excellent condition. Otherwise straight from the factory.  Bike has Vin Matching State of Ohio Title as a 1992 model MC21-1070*** “Buyer is responsible for their own State Requirements.”  Imported into the States through all legal channels. EPA and Declaration papers provided.

Bidding is up to $6,500 with about 24 hours left on the auction. If it stays in that neighborhood, it's on the low side for an MC21, but that's in keeping with the less-than-perfect condition. This example is obviously not perfect as described by the seller, but is claimed to be mechanically in good working order. If you're buying one of these and worried about sourcing parts, that may be a weight lifted. Even if you end up on a quest for a perfect set of original bodywork, you can at least ride your machine in the meantime, and this looks like it'd be pretty nice from ten feet, certainly a good place to begin for a restoration. Personally, I'm okay with replacement bodywork, as long as the frame and everything else are clean and straight. Get a decent set of Rothmans replica bodywork from the internet, spend the weekend fitting it, and then ride your little smoker with no fear of destroying a priceless, pristine collectible.

-tad

Ride or Restore: 1993 Honda NSR250R SP MC21 for Sale
Honda June 10, 2017 posted by

On the fence: 1990 Honda NSR250R SE

In the hardcore world of RSBFS, two strokes rule and four strokes drool (oil). The simple reason is power to weight: Take this 1990 NSR250R as an example: a 250cc v-twin producing approximately 45 HP in Japanese restricted configuration, has only only 290 lbs of bike to move. Similar four strokes have 10-15 less HP (even without home market restrictions) and are heavier by at least the same amount. An unrestricted 250cc smoker is a 60+ HP machine, tilting the numbers even more in favor of the two stroke. When it comes to ultimate performance, it is very hard to beat the sounds, smells and snot of a popcorn popper.

1990 Honda NSR250R SE MC21 for sale on eBay

The MC21 edition of the NSR was a considerable step forward for the NSR line. Featuring a 90° liquid-cooled 249cc v-twin with a trick, six-speed cassette gearbox (making ratio changes possible without pulling the motor and gearbox), asymmetrical "gull-arm" swingarm for maximum cornering clearance (tucks the right side pipe up in tighter) and adjustable suspension, the MC21 is a proper sporting motorcycle. The dry clutch with its "race rattle" is another nod to the intentions of this NSR. An estimated 16,000 were produced for Japanese home markets and as exports to the Pacific Rim and Europe, but sadly America was never a recipient.

From the seller:
1990 HONDA NSR250R SE MC21 DRY CLUTCH
The bike is imported from Japan.
Not registered yet in the U.S.
This bike is sold without title. (NO TITLE)
We don't know how to get a titile. Please ask DMV
Start engine.
Aftermarket Cowl but Tank is original.
Not original color
Race Foot pegs.
Some scratches So look carefully all pictures and video.
Turn signals don't work.
This motorcycle is 27years ago .Sold as is.
24150km (15006mile)
Engine Number MC16E-1222422
Sold as is with NO warranty NO refunds NO return.

This is one of those listings that gives a RSBFS staff writer pause for thought. One one hand, this is a freaking MC21 edition of Honda's acclaimed NSR250 series. The fact that it is an import, reasonably rare in the US, a two stroke and undoubtedly a sport bike ticks most of the right boxes on our checklist. On the other hand, the lack of seller knowledge with regards to title (i.e. it currently sits in CA where you cannot get one for this bike) and the overall condition (i.e. not stock, less than pristine with unknown history) make for a bike to avoid posting. In the end the candor from the seller and the rattle of the dry clutch in the video won me over. It may not be perfect, but throw in some elbow grease and you may have a winner (provided you don't live in CA).

Which brings us to the bottom line: the opening ask for this auction is a fairly unrealistic $4,200. I think that the initial bid is high enough to scare most bidders away, even though it may be in the pricing ballpark. While the bike is rare, there are certainly other NSRs available. A really good MC21 can fetch $7,500 - $9,000 (just check out some of our past Featured Listings), but I think this one will end up in more conservative territory. Check it out here, and then be sure and jump to the Comments section to share your thoughts. Does this bike belong on RSBFS, or should Mike be lashed with a wet noodle soaked in castor oil for the post? Good Luck!!

MI

On the fence: 1990 Honda NSR250R SE
Honda April 14, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1989 Honda NSR250R in Canada

What do you have when you locate a nice NSR250R MC18 in Canada? You have a cool smoker that is *almost* in the States. And while Quebec may seem very far away from your US-based locale, it is quicker and easier to bring a tasty bit of forbidden fruit down from Canada than to import one all the way from Japan or Australia. Think of Canada as the quick check-out lane in the grey market grocery store. (Note: Canada has much to recommend, and offers great value above and beyond grey market bike access). North of the US border you will find many fantastic creations never officially imported into America, all looking for a good home.

1989 Honda NSR250R for sale on eBay

Today's example is a MC18 variant of the NSR250R. The NSR is the bread and butter of the two stroke grey market world. With a 90 degree vee twin motor, aluminum frame, six speed gearbox, wet clutch (only the SP versions had the dry clutch) and full-race bodywork, the NSR was as close to Grands Prix racer as one could get for the street in the late 1980s. Today it remains one of the most coveted imports in the US, with clean, titled examples fetching bid dollars.

From the seller:
Rare, unique and totally OEM 1989 MC 18 with only 6000 km on the clock. We went to great lengths to save all fairings in order to preserve its originality. Pipes and all mechanical components stock and in really good working order/condition. Plugs changed, air filter cleaned and oiled. Wheels are freshly powder coated. Upper and lower cowlings have been restored and painted. The bike has some age related marks, scratches but no major bruises and no sign of track use of major accident. Brakes and rotors, chain, sprockets and tires are all within specs. The bike is corrosion free. This 250 CC V Twin two stroke is a blast and handles like few other machines. Comes with safety check is delivered in the province of Quebec, shipping available for all of North America.

6,000 KM equates to about 3,728 miles. That seems very low for the given year, but many of these bikes saw only occasional use. The seller notes that the plastics have been reconditioned, and the pictures show a clean and good looking example. No real info on maintenance, engine refresh/rebuild, etc., so again, do your homework. These models had a crank assembly that was not rebuildable - and Honda ran out of spares years ago. More knowledgeable RSBFS readers might be able to share info on replacement alternatives should the service life be a concern. Otherwise, this looks like a solid example of an early NSR250R.

This seller is familiar with shipping bikes over the border, so US buyers might have a bit of assistance there. Legally registering an imported smoker is difficult in many states, so plan first and then act. This bike is being offered for $8,199 or best offer - a tidy sum to be sure. However a quick troll of the RSBFS archives shows this to be a fair offer; most of the recent examples were looking for more, although they were already in the US (although not necessarily titled). Check it out here, and if you decide to hit the grey market import check-out line on this machine, be sure and visit the Comments section and let us know all about it. Good Luck!!

MI

Honda March 2, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1990 Honda NSR250R MC21

Update 3.4.2017: SOLD in 2 days! Contact us for a $59 Featured Listing if you'd like similar exposure from Rare SportBikes For Sale! dan@motoringblogs.com

It's no secret that the staff of RSBFS believe that two strokes were a gift from the gods to enable mere mortals to perform acts of speed not otherwise possible. Pound for pound the two cycle engine puts out more HP than any other form of reciprocating, internal combustion format. With no overhead valves, these engines can be impossibly compact both in height as well as width. The packaging possibilities enable very tidy proportions and, when combined with the power and lack of heft can equate to stunning performance. Take this beautiful 1990 NSR250R as an example: a 250cc v-twin producing approximately 45 HP (restricted due to Japanese legislation), yet pushing only 290 lbs of bike. The most similar 4-stroke example - a Ninja 250R - develops 10-15 less HP, yet pushes a much heavier bike (by 15-20 pounds, dry). The victor in any form of performance measurement is obvious.

This particular NSR250R is a MC21 model. And while approximately 16,000 of these models were produced, NONE of them were officially imported into the United States. So what is an enterprising, knee dragging two-stroke enthusiast to do? Import one, of course. That sure sounds easy, but in reality can be a nightmare in terms of shipping arrangements, importation paperwork, and then dealing with the powers that be in order to properly register the bike for use on the road. The stories of those that have tried are too numerous to count; you see the bikes for sale with "no title" or similar nomenclature. To find a legally licensed NSR250R in the US - one with a title that you can *actually* ride on the street - now that is rare indeed.

From the seller:
1990 Honda NSR250R MC21. 12,407 Miles (19,968 Kilometers)

Bike is being sold from my personal collection. This is a very clean well cared for unmodified bike. Completely original and unrestored. Only change is Powder coated Fork Tubes with new fork seals January 2017. Bike needs nothing. All fluids are fresh. Shifts and revs to redline perfectly. Starts effortlessly every time. Continental Conti Sport Attack 2 Tires are brand new with Zero miles on them. OEM Fairings have some hairline scratches and touchup paint using only a fine brush, No respray or rattle can. Please see images. Otherwise straight from the factory. Bike has Vin Matching State of Ohio Title. MC21-1013*** “Buyer is responsible for their own State Requirements.” Imported into the States through all legal channels. EPA and Declaration papers provided. Sold as is. Buyer responsible for shipping. Thanks for looking. Please email any questions. Price is 7500.00 USD.

This seller has provided a wealth of information about this bike, along with numerous, clear pictures. Look closely: you will see a very clean and well-cared for import. This is not the "just off the boat from Japan and full of corrosion" level of import, but rather a fully sorted and loved example from a rider's personal collection. If originality scores any points with you, check out the list of modifications: powder coated fork tubes and a bit of touch up paint. No stories of swapped out suspension, engine mods, chambers or otherwise. No flush-mounted signals with a rear fender delete kit added. No wires hanging where something has been removed, no holes where something is missing. This is the type of bike that RSBFS staff love to see - and our readers too.

The best part of this NSR250R? An asking price of only $7,500. Yes, we have seen them cheaper, but more often than not we see them go for more...especially bikes in this type of condition (go ahead and search). This is a very realistic price for what looks to be a great, original example of the NSR breed. With low miles, official paperwork and the ability to register and ride it in your state (not all states need apply - you know who you are.), this MC21 model is looking like a very good buy. Better act quickly - this one is going to be gone in a haze of blue smoke very soon!

MI

Featured Listing: 1990 Honda NSR250R MC21
Honda January 4, 2017 posted by

Third Generation: 1990 Honda NSR250R for Sale

The MC21 was the third generation of Honda's lithe NSR250R, their entry into the quarter-liter two-stroke class that had been hotly contested by the major Japanese manufacturers since the mid 1980s. Power was modest, at least in stock form, but handling was cutting-edge, and the bike was packed with the usual wealth of Honda tech: PGM-III electronic ignition that used a three-dimensional ignition map for each cylinder and RC "Revolution Control" powervalve technology.

The NSR250R was motivated by a 90° liquid-cooled 249cc v-twin backed up with a six-speed cassette gearbox for bench-racing bragging rights and quick gearing changes at the track. From the factory, these were limited to 45hp by Japanese regulations, but more power is available from de-restricted bikes and today's machine is claimed to have a full compliment of horses. Triple disc brakes quickly brought the 300lb machine to a stop and both front and rear wheels were now 17" [earlier MC16 and MC18s had 18" rears] for modern looks and a slightly wider selection of modern rubber.

From the original eBay listing: 1990 Honda NSR250R for Sale

Up for auction is a beautiful 1990 Honda NSR 250 "R" model with only 8610 miles. The bike was legally imported into the United States.The bike has a clear US title with the proper 11 digit VIN number (title and frame number match). The bike has been de-restricted for full power. Bike starts first kick every time and idols perfect with no oil leaks. The bike is all original minus stainless steel brake lines, gas cap, rear set, and clutch and brake levers. Please view all the images as there are few scratches and scuff's throughout the bike. Also please keep in mind that this is all OEM factory Honda fairings and not the cheaper aftermarket stuff. All the electronics including horn, turn signals,high and low beam, and killswitch all work as they should. The carbs were recently cleaned as well as brand-new spark plugs and all fresh fluids. The bike also has a new battery and tires with less than 150 miles on them.  This bike is being sold locally and I encourage all bidders to come down and view the bike in person or send a local mechanic on your behalf to view for you. Rare vintage Japanese bikes don't come up often and this is a beautiful example with no disappointment.  I'd also like to note that the bike can be titled in any state other than California. I do know that some NSR's are titled in the state but do not know the loopholes to get the bike titled in California. All other states are fine to be titled for street use.

The seller also includes a nice startup/walkaround video so you can feel a bit better about taking a chance on this particular two-stroke. Bidding is up just over $6,100 with the Reserve Not Yet Met and several days left on the auction. It's not in perfect shape, with a few scrapes, scratches, and missing fasteners, but there is very little corrosion or discoloration on the aluminum parts, and the seller claims those are the original fairings.

-tad

Third Generation: 1990 Honda NSR250R for Sale
Honda December 21, 2016 posted by

High-Tech Two-Stroke: 1996 Honda NSR250R MC28 for Sale

From the “jeez, if you’re going to post your bike for sale, couldn’t you at least wash it” files comes this Honda NSR250R MC28. Early NSRs have become relatively common on this site recently, with containers full of them coming over from Japan, now that they’ve become relatively easy to register in some parts of the US. But the MC28 version is still pretty rare here, as it isn’t yet 25 years old and is pretty much the ultimate development of the successful NSR formula. The MC28 features many trick parts, like the single-sided swingarm and Honda's PGM-IV electronic ignition that interpreted throttle position, gear-selection, and rpm to create three-dimensional ignition maps for each cylinder and to adjust their RC "Revolutionary Controlled" Valve for improved power and midrange response.

All that technology served a 90° liquid-cooled 249cc v-twin backed up with a six-speed cassette gearbox. As has been discussed at length, these were restricted to 45hp in their home market and, depending on the model, it can be a real pain to release their full potential. Especially in the case of the MC28: that very cool PGM-IV ignition system uses swappable ignition maps stored on "smart cards" and, unless you can track down a nearly unobtainable HRC card with "race" maps, you're kind of stuck. Supposedly, work-arounds do exist for this issue, but be sure to consult with an expert and proceed at your own risk...

It may be hard to see under that layer of dust, but this is a pretty nice bike, a few superficial scratches aside. The seller indicates that quite a bit of work has gone into it.

From the original eBay listing: 1996 Honda NSR250R MC28 for Sale

I won’t start by saying that is a GP replica and is a fast bike for a 250cc. If you are interested in the bike you know about it....

  • The bike has a complete engine rebuilt
  • all Honda parts
  • rebuilt complete crank (all the bearings)
  • all seals
  • all gaskets
  • clutch
  • tires
  • chain & sprockets
  • the rims are powder coated
  • all electrical working
  • PGM4 on the bike with one card

Fairings are OEM Honda not after market and they are in great shape no cracks at all

I have the bike for 3 years and I have done only 1500km on the engine. The bike is stored indoors all year and I start the bike every 5-6 weeks. I am just changing the fork seals this week (the one tube has a very small leak). The bike needs nothing just a rider to enjoy the ride. I have rebuilt the bike myself I have register and plate it here in Canada ON. The bike come complete from japan in boxes and I assembled it here. With the bike I have some parts that they come with it. 1 set of complete exhaust (you have the option Dog Fight or Ethos) The bike comes with stock.

1 set of front forks USD from a VFR400 NC35. You need to get the upper and lower fork clams and you install them on the bike. The bike comes with stock forks. As you see on some of the pics the forks and the exhaust I had them on the bike but the bike is complete stock now. The bike is located in Toronto Canada.

Bidding is up north of $6,000 with the Reserve Not Met, which is no surprise, considering what earlier NSRs go for these days. Even more so than usual, be sure you know what you're doing before you buy this if you plan to register it for road use. It's still a few years away from that magical 25-year mark, but maybe now's the time to scoop one up for your collection, with an eye to registering it down the road.

-tad

High-Tech Two-Stroke: 1996 Honda NSR250R MC28 for Sale