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Featured Listing September 15, 2018 posted by

Featured Listing: 2004 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 Corsa

If there was ever any question about RSBFS bringing you the best classifieds online every day, this Featured Listing of the ultimate Italian unicorn should erase all doubts. Nor is this gem hidden in some far-flung corner of the globe, but rather in the continental U.S., Seattle, WA. If you've been drooling and dreaming about a MGS-01, there will never be a better opportunity than now - this very nearly brand new beast awaits a new home.

Featured Listing: 2004 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 Corsa!

Moto Guzzi made a statement the way only Moto Guzzi could: building a racer to go after the legendary 916 racebike. As audacious as that sounds (and given the winning streak of that other Italian machine), Guzzi pulled out all the stops to meet the goal. While in difficult straights from a financial and business perspective, Moto Guzzi still had the kind of legendary cachet to make a splash on the world's stage. Employing well-known design and speed merchants Ghezzi & Brian with a miniscule 9-month commission, the MGS-01 (Moto Guzzi Sport - model number one) Corsa (race only) made its debut at the Intermot show in Munich, Germany in 2002. The result stunned the press and the public, and set tongues wagging about a massive comeback from the world's oldest motorcycle manufacturer in continuous production.

From the seller:
How do you even begin to describe this bike? The bike that was never meant to be?? This bike was purchased in November 2006 by a collector and has been stored away until 2014 when Moto International “woke it up” for its first time. It was taken around the block and then placed back into environmentally controlled storage again until it arrived here at SUB last week. 1225cc of Italian Thunder, one of a kind for sure. Bike comes with rear stand, a garage cover and a spare set of race bodywork.

2004 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 Corsa – under 5 miles – ZGULRRA004M10045 – $55,000.00

Contact: Dave at Seattle Used Bikes (dave@seattleusedbikes.com)

While potentially tame by today's standards, one look at this large cubic centimeter v-twin belies anything but. Passe use of air cooling shows deep roots, but with a deep oil sump and large oil cooler hidden behind the headlight area the MGS-01 is an Italian take on the air/oil cooled first generation GSX-R. Technology rears its head in the form of the 4-valve heads and includes special hi-temp metallurgy to ensure high RPM longevity. The big slugs that slide through the ceramic-lined cylinders are specialty items from Cosworth. Ultimate power came in at 122 HP at 8000rpm, with a 83 lb/ft wall of torque at 6500 RPM. The tranny is an upgraded six-speed unit. The frame was a one-off, suspended by Ohlins front and rear, and riding on specialty OZ Racing wheels. Braking is brick-wall solid stopping power thanks to radial mount Brembos with floating rotors. Although shaft drive is retained, this is a no-holds barred racebike.

There are some who may not view this as a legitimate racer - which flies in the face of Mike Baldwin winning an AMA championship on a Guzzi 850. The DNA is there, the roots are there, but unfortunately the finances and follow-through were not. Moto Guzzi, first acquired by Aprilia - who was later acquired by scooter conglomerate Piaggio - continues to market a few motorcycles based on the successful V7 concept, but the MGS-01 was the last of the real thunder. And while the world held its collective breath for a new model to appear with lights and horn, sadly none arrived. Thus, the racer (the wealthy gentleman's track day bike) is all that remains of the project. An estimated 150 Corsas were scheduled to be built, with as few as 50 to be sent to the US. In typical Italian fashion numbers are very hard to corroborate - but rest assured that you are looking at something very rare and very special indeed.

This particular example has but 5 miles - total. Long a collector museum piece, VIN number "...0045" was brought to life in 2014. This is as close to new - with veracity of having been run - that you can get, and far better than most of these (few) models we have seen. The price is very much in line with historical numbers, and represents a bargain compared to where this bike will go. This model is part myth, part miracle and utterly magnificent. The legend of the MGS-01 has grown since inception, as has the waiting list for an available example. If you are in the market, RSBFS recommends you contact Dave quickly - this is one bike that will not hang out for long. Good Luck!

MI

Featured Listing: 2004 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 Corsa
Moto Guzzi June 18, 2017 posted by

Not so fast: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Italy

2006 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Italy

Moto Guzzi is often thought as being a sort of italian Harley Davidson, probably because  both manufacturers have a defining configuration that has long formed the basis of its lineup and neither is really thought of as a sportbike manufacturer.  Moto Guzzi has even used this portrayal in its own marketing, telling would-be owners that a Moto Guzzi is a motorcycle for traditionalists/for people who think the journey is more important that the speed at which they get there.  But back in 2002 Moto Guzzi had just opened a new design center and the company tasked their designers to come up with new designs around existing hardware.  A team of designers led by Giuseppe Ghezzi & Bruni Saturno took up the task and the MGS-01 concept was the result, a V-twin powered sportbike that was unlike anything the company had produced previously or since.

The MGS-01, which stands for Moto Guzzi Sport number 1, was powered by a 1200+cc 8V engine featuring chrome cylinder walls (!!!!), cosworth triple ring racing pistons, nimonic valves and a special lubrication system that sprayed oil under the pistons.  The MGS-01 would also come with an all new six-speed gearbox with reinforced clutch,  an aluminium swingarm, Ohlins for the rear shock, Brembo brakes and OZ aluminium wheels.  All in all, a huge departure from the typical Guzzi offering of the time.

The embedded video below gives you an idea of what this big red beasty looks and sounds like (skip to the 1:50 mark for just the sound).

Sounds like it can't miss, right?  Sadly, no. The MGS-01 had the misfortune of arriving right when parent company Aprilia was going through some serious financial troubles.  It took until 2004 for the first MGS-01 corsa editions to actually roll off the production line and when the Aprilia group was sold to to Piaggo in 2005 the new owners quickly pulled the plug on what they determined to be an unprofitable "halo" model.  Production numbers are under some dispute but most agree no more than 150 were produced, with the final editions going out the factory door as 2006 models.

For anyone who is interested in reading a very good writeup of the entire MGS-01 effort, click here.

As for this particular MGS-01, mileage is 2460 so its barely broken in.  The current seller does not provide any detailed service info in the Ebay auction so we are forced to rely on the pics which there are a good quantity and quality of but ..uh oh...one of the pictures shows a receipt for a repaired valve and some engine work.  The receipt does indicates mileage of 0 at the time so perhaps it was a factory recall but it it is a concern along with why the paint appears to be flaking off the engine case, the fluid color and what appears to be some sort of fluid on the tires.

So should you consider this particular MGS-01?  Well on the negative side of the ledger is the previously mentioned valve service receipt and the fact that the MGS-01 was a one-off model that marked the end of production for 8V Guzzi racing engines which means that service and parts would be an ongoing concern.   I suppose if you are really interested you could contact a dealership about parts availability and also the current seller to inquire about the valve service (or try to contact the owner who had the valve work done).   Location is also an issue unless you are willing to pay for import.

On the positive side of the ledger the M GS-01 is probably the ultimate expression of Guzzi's being used as modern day racers....you can think of it as the ultimate Dr. John Whittner Daytona.  And given its limited production run of 150 units the MGS-01 seems destined to be a rare sportbike that will appreciate in value over time.

As for price, from what I have been able to find OEM price from a MGS-01 was about $37,000 but the few of these we have had on RSBFS have been priced at at least that.  I don't think I can give an estimate on this one due to the service history concerns but I will say that I wouldn't be surprised to see it go for right around the OEM price.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

Not so fast:  2006 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Italy
Moto Guzzi January 14, 2015 posted by

Guzzi Racers: Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Japan vs Moto Guzzi Daytona in US

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As we have posted before, Moto Guzzi is the oldest European manufacturer in continuous motorcycle production and has over 1000 racing victories including 14 world speed titles.  However most of the Moto Guzzi victories came well over 40 years ago.  Guzzi has made the occasional attempt to recognize and even revisit their racing history and this post is about two of these efforts, a 1993 Guzzi Daytona available in the US and an uber-rare 2004 MGS-01 for sale in Japan.

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1993 Moto Guzzi Daytona for sale on ebay

First is a 1993 Guzzi Daytona located in the states. We have posted a few of these here on RSBFS but for those unfamiliar with the Daytona edition, in the mid 1980's an American named Dr John Wittner decided to try something different and go racing using a Moto Guzzi.  Witnner's Guzzi efforts resulted in wins in both the 1984 and 1985 U.S. Endurance Championship and Wittner eventually went to Italy to work for Moto Guzzi.  One result of his efforts was the Guzzi Daytona edition, which had an updated engine that was in a new spine frame based on Dr. John’s race bike design, including a monoshock under the seat and Brembo four-pot calipers with 300mm dual discs (two-pot/260mm rear) provided stopping power.  The result was a significantly improved ride over other Guzzis of the era, with power available whenever you open the throttle.  A detailed explanation of all the technical changes in the bike can be read here.

While the Daytona was a big move forward for Guzzi, it was still essentially a big Guzzi, more of an homage to Wittner's Guzzi racing success than a pure racer.  As reviewers noted;

The Moto Guzzi Daytona isn't a real race-replica, it is instead more of an homage, a traditionalist’s GT-class machine. It excels everywhere by not doing anything wrong; the suspension offers a good balance of compliance and control. Mid-corner throttle changes have almost no consequence whatsoever on the chassis. Whacking open the throttle while leaned over makes the rear end squat slightly, just like a chain-drive bike which is amazing considering the shaft drive.

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The buyer includes a fair amount of info about the bike, including the following:

  • Single owner since new
  • Everything on the bike is stock including the Stage 2 Moto Guzzi upgrade kit.
  • The original tires were on the bike, but were just replaced out of safety concerns.
  • All of the fluids have been just changed by the owner and a new battery installed.
  • Mileage is listed at a low 7,126 kilometers/4,427 miles

Overall the condition looks to be very good except for some surface rust on the rear rotor which is probably due to climate and what appears to be an aftermarket exhaust.  It is interesting to note that like other US buyers of the Daytona, the buyer wasn't happy with DOT mandated changes and had the dealer convert the headlight to the European specs which included the head light assembly and upper fairing.

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Okay, now usually in these posts this is where I post the "so whats it worth part?"  The Daytona isn't a bad bike in any way, is always popular among people who like good engineering and want something that isn't a torture to ride.   Prices for these seem to vary between 8,000-11,000 USD depending on condition.  These bikes are known for retaining their value so if this one is on your bucket list, this might be the one for you.

But what if you wanted a true Guzzi race machine?  Well there was an actual short-lived effort by Moto Guzzi to produce a true race machine.  Moto Guzzi was acquired by the Aprilia motorcycle company in 1999 (Editors note: along with my beloved Laverda) and Aprilia was at this time working hard on large displacement bikes including their RSV Mille.  It was during this period that Moto Guzzi produced the uber-rare and non-street going MGS-01 pictured here.

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2004 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 for sale in Japan on goobike

The MGS-01 (Moto Guzzi Sport model number one) was intended to be the future of Moto Guzzi. It was fast, beautiful, exclusive, expensive, basically you typical piece of Italian exotica. A detailed explanation of the MGS-01 can be read here but to suffice to say that when bike was introduced it caused a sensation.  Sadly, only 150 of the MGS-01 managed to make it out the door before new owners of Aprilia the Piaggio group shut down production in 2005 to focus on more profitable ventures.  Efforts continue to keep the idea alive via the Millepercento group but those aren't official Guzzi products.

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This particular MGS-01 is located in Japan and there is almost no info provided about the bike other than a few pictures.   Perhaps a RSBFS reader located in Japan could get more info for us.  Asking price of 42,000 USD is actually in line with the few that have been posted on RSBFS before. With only 150 of these being built and some undoubtedly being used as true race bikes, the chances of acquiring one of these will probably only decline going forward so serious collectors should take note.

In conclusion, while from a styling standpoint its hard to believe only 11 years separated the 1993 Daytona and the 1994 MGS-01, they are both modern motorcycles and each one has their own type of appeal.  I suppose the Daytona would be easier to own and enjoy while the MGS-01 is certainly a true piece of unobtanium.  Perhaps some lucky Moto Guzzi fan will be able to acquire them both and enjoy the Daytona as a regular ride and the MGS-01 as living room art.

-Marty

Guzzi Racers:  Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Japan vs Moto Guzzi Daytona in US
Moto Guzzi April 4, 2012 posted by

On American Soil: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS 01 Corsa

On American Soil: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS 01 Corsa

Update 4.4.2012: Back on eBay after originally being listed in January. Now $42000 buy-it-now. Links updated. -dc

I remember coming across this photo back in 2006 and thinking to myself, "Wow! Moto Guzzi has turned the corner." I thought this bike would be the beginning of a series of more modern Guzzi's. I guess I was wrong and I don't believe the rumored street going version of this bike was ever produced. That takes nothing away from the MGS 01 Corsa though.

It's back! This is actually this bikes third appearance on RSBFS. Back in February I posted this bike while it was for sale in New Zealand and Jay had even written it up before me. Well, it has made the trip here to the States and is back for sale. Does it have some sort of curse?

There is no arguing this is a rare bike but the BIN price is eye popping: $62,500! The seller states that 50 were produced back in 2006. I can't confirm that number but it looks like it has been produced on a yearly basis ever since. The bike still appears on Moto Guzzi's Italian website. The MSRP is roughly $37,000. Even with hiring someone to translate for you and shipping fee's I'd think you'd come in under that BIN price. Having said that, maybe this bike is of higher spec than the bike off the showroom floor. Then of course there is the frustration factor of trying to import a bike on your own.

It looks damn good from any angle.

There are plenty of video clips of the Corsa out there but I thought this one was cool because you get to see it without the bodywork. Very compact.

If you aren't feeling brave enough to import one yourself, make the seller an offer as he as added that option.

Take a look here.

Ian





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