Posts by tag: Gamma

Suzuki October 31, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: One Careful Owner – New 1985 Suzuki RG500

10.30.2017: Last seen in February of last year, this RG500 is back on eBay for $68k AUD, which is roughly $52k USD today, representing a bit of a discount since the last time we saw it for sale. Good luck to buyer and seller! -dc

Within a hair's breadth of a 1985 Grand Prix machine, the RG500 has a water-cooled two-stroke square four between the alloy perimeter frame.  The 498 cc's generate 95 hp and the entire package weighs under 350 lbs., both numbers improvable with some professional tuning.  Suspension is right-side-up forks and Full Floater monoshock rear, and brakes seem small for the expected 146 mph top speed but appropriate for the weight.

20160201 1985 suzuki rg500 left front

20160201 1985 suzuki rg500 cockpit

A pre-production marketing bike and never run, this is as close to a time machine as there could be.  Not a mark on it, and includes a nice certificate of authenticity from Suzuki Australia.  From the eBay auction:

Lets start by saying this bike has been for sale before and is not suitable for those who are going to ride the bike. It is a collectors bike only.
Secondly the bike shows 9kms on the odometer from being pushed around at various shows by Suzuki Australia prior to the RG500`s release in 1985.

This is a genuine new/never started RG500 that was previously used by Suzuki Australia as their show/demo/promotional bike prior to the release of the RG500.
It was never a "spanner" bike for dealerships apprentices to practice on.

The bike is what it is. The only thing I have added is the single seat option. It also comes with many now unavailable books, brochures, factory Gamma stand etc
No Vin Plate.
Will export worldwide at buyers expense.
The bike is in "as new" in condition and and has a supporting letter of authenticity from Suzuki Australia.

20160201 1985 suzuki rg500 right front wheel

20160201 1985 suzuki rg500 right rear wheel

A four-time 500cc GP Championship winner, the RG500 is very close to being the racer with lights you've heard about.  The four flat-slide Mikuni's, the 12,000 rpm redline, the different sized wheels, 16-inch in front to help turn-in, all state the facts.  But this one is of course a bit different.  Likely never to be run, it has survived three decades on display and in storage.  It is the sportbike fan's Barcelona chair or Alessi tea set  ( a little more exciting ), exquisite but better to use something else and save this for the next generation...

-donn

20160201 1985 suzuki rg500 binnacle

Featured Listing:  One Careful Owner – New 1985 Suzuki RG500
Sport Bikes For Sale October 20, 2017 posted by

Slightly scruffy but ready to go: 1985 Suzuki RG500 Gamma

Yet another two-stroke from the land of Craigslist, this 1985 Suzuki RG500 Gamma wears the brand's iconic blue and white superbike livery and looks very nice, despite its fair share of scratches and scuffs. Further signs of the bike's age and use are cracked bolt holes at the mirror mounts on the cowl.

With the ugly stuff out of the way, this looks like the perfect Gamma to enjoy on your local backroads, with a set of aftermarket pipes and pod filters and a set of 17-inch rims from a Katana, which will improve handling and tire choices. The front brakes are Katana fare, too, and are a good bit bigger and more powerful than the stock units. The improved handling and stopping will be a welcome change on the Gamma, which has a reputation for being something of a demanding ride.

Save the pod filters and pipes, the 500cc square-four mill is stock, and was good for a stout 93 horses at the output shaft when new. That's more than enough to make the front end lively when the power hits, especially given the bike's 400-ish pound wet weight.

From the Craigslist ad:

Canadian model. Clean California title in hand. 19,640 kilometers so about 12,200 miles.

The good stuff: Bike runs awesome. Motor, tranny and carbs are stock. Has LG style pod air filters. Battery is new and has been relocated to original airbox location. Stock oil tank and pump in place. Upgraded with Katana front 3" and rear 3.5 X 17" rims. Larger Katana front rotors and calipers for better braking. Braided brake lines front and rear. Nikon pipes. New spark plugs. New transmission oil. Jetted for pods and pipes, but you will want to verify jetting for your area.

The bad stuff: Minor scratches on tank, solo seat cowl and mid fairing. No dents in tank or broken tabs or cracks on bodywork except upper cowl. Upper cowl has the typical cracks at the mirror area, but cosmetically it is very nice. Lower cowl is a fiberglass Lance Gamma replacement. See pictures for details.

Overall this bike is a great example of the RG500 that has the proper upgrades. Minor cosmetic work and the bike will be perfect. $14,500.00 OBO

With the rideability modifications the bike should be a peach of a canyon carver. The ask is healthy for a 32-year-old bike, to be sure, but the values of these old GP-style two-strokes have spiked recently, so it is not outside the range of reason.

Slightly scruffy but ready to go: 1985 Suzuki RG500 Gamma
Sport Bikes For Sale October 19, 2017 posted by

Silver Wolf: 1987 Suzuki RG400 Gamma

If memory serves, this is only the second 1987 Suzuki RG400 Walter Wolf we have featured with silver livery instead of the much more common navy blue. Further adding to the intrigue is this bike's 400cc displacement, as we much more often feature its bigger 500cc brother.

The seller claims to have had a bunch of two-stroke Suzukis over the years, and says the 60-horse 400cc square four gives up little performance to the bigger bike. A quick Google does not back up that claim, with available spec sheets showing the 500 made 93 horses. For perspective: both bikes weigh about 400 pounds, but the 400 gives up more power than most dual sports make to the 500.

Weight, handling and road manners should be pretty close despite the grunt differential, and suspension, chassis bits and body panels should swap right over. This bike looks great and has all its original bodywork, though the seat cowl wears paint that does not match the rest of the bike particularly well.

From the Craigslist ad:

1987 Suzuki RG400 gamma

Only 4500 miles or 7200km, miles are correct I am sure, new tires, original bore and piston/piston rings, good original condition, everything works good. 4 cylinder 2 stroke moto gp replica that only goes up in value. Bike sat for many many years in Japan before I got it. I cleaned the carbs and rotors and put a few hundred miles on it. Runs good, no issues I am aware of. Bike is all original except for Sugaya exhaust ( excellent sound and performance) and pod air filters with carb jets changed for filters and pipes. I have owned many RG500 and this 400 runs just as fast, cant understand why the 500 goes for so much more? There are very few differences between the 500 and 400, almost every part is interchangeable, mostly piston diameter and a few other minor things. VERY easy to get low cost parts, not that you would need any, these are the most reliable motors that I know of. The original OEM body work is very good, NOT the cheap aftermarket bodywork you see on ebay, original OEM all of it, NO typical cracks near the mirror mounts, some repairs here and there, scuff on the right side, see pics. I did paint the OEM seat cowl and it does not match that well, have the rear seat if you dont want to use it. Tank has some rust in it, I cleaned it and never had any problems. Vermont reg/title, we must transfer it here in Florida. If your looking for a bike to ride, this is a good fit, if your looking for a museum piece or something mint, DO NOT BOTHER!! send an email through CList if you want to chat. If your thinking about making an offer lower than my price the answer is NO, FIRM PRICE, thanks for reading my ad.

The $9,500 firm asking price seems reasonable, given the machine's rarity and condition, and the fact that similar 500s are trading closer to the $15,000 mark these days.

Silver Wolf: 1987 Suzuki RG400 Gamma
Suzuki October 13, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: 1986 Suzuki RG500Γ Gamma for Sale

Update 10.27.2017: SOLD! Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

Like Ducati’s MotoGP inspired Desmosedici, the square four in the Suzuki RG500Γ "Gamma" in today's Featured Listing wasn’t actually a detuned version of the race bike's engine. Race bikes engines are built for power, not longevity, and simply “de-tuning” is probably not going be enough to make one work in a road bike. So in both cases, the engines shared the configuration and general specifications with their MotoGP racebike counterparts, but few or no actual parts. Which almost makes them cooler in my mind: in both cases, the one-off engines were built to be installed in a very limited run of exotic motorcycles, with no intention that they be mass-produced or turn much of a profit. These engines and bikes exist seemingly only for a very small group of enthusiasts, and there's something inherently cool about that. Also, I love using the Greek alphabet typing up these posts.

The "configuration and general specifications" we're talking about in this case refers to the two-stroke, twin-crank, disc-valve square four that displaced 498cc. Four very compact Mikuni flat-slides fed fuel and air into the engine, and the gearbox was a quick-change cassette six-speed. Of course it featured a power valve system, in this case Suzuki's AEC or Automatic Exhaust Control that helped smooth out the two-stroke's abrupt powerband. The result? The Gamma put just a bit less than 100hp worth of stinky, heavy exhaust smoke out of its four tiny stinger exhaust pipes.

The rest of the bike was more familiar, with an aluminum frame not all that different from the GSX-R, with hydraulic anti-dive forks in the front and Suzuki's "Full-Floater" system out back. Skinny period 16" front and 17" rear wheels mean terrifyingly skinny tires that look like they'd be more at home on a beach-cruiser bicycle today, but were par for the course in 1986. With 340lbs worth of dry weight to push around and less than 100 horses to do it with, performance seems like it would be unimpressive. But it's the very nature of that spiky power delivery, the all-or-nothing acceleration that requires constant use of the gearbox to make fast progress, the challenge that seems to get two-stroke fans excited.

Unless you're "of a certain age" or younger and a bit of a bike nerd, the appeal of the whole two-stroke thing may fly over your head. They're smoky, buzzy, and generally pretty high-maintenance. They also have famously narrow and fairly abrupt powerbands, making them challenging to ride quickly. But even though they do require more regular maintenance than a four-stroke motorcycle, the upside is that they're relatively simple to work on, lacking traditional intake valves, and therefore cams, cam chains, cam belts, pushrods, or any of the other bits typically associated with "normal" motorcycles.

This particular bike is claimed to have seen the attention of the famous Rick Lance during its refresh and appears to be in extremely nice condition, ready to become the showcase of the next owner's collection and hopefully be the talk of every motorcycle gathering when the new owner takes it out for a spin and stretches its legs.

 

From the Seller: 1986 Suzuki RG500 Gamma for Sale

Located in Greater Chicagoland Area 1986 Suzuki RG500 Gamma

This 1986 RG500 Gamma with 17,769 km (approximately 11,041 miles) is in near mint original condition.  It comes out of the famous BAC car and motorcycle collection. It was extremely well cared for by the previous owner and the current owner.  BAC has owned this bike for almost ten years.  The current owner searched for almost two years to find the best one that could be found.  After purchasing the bike, he had Mike the Chicagoland expert on Gammas along with Rick Lance, a Gamma guru, to supply necessary technical information to bring this bike back to its original factory condition and near mint condition.  The bike runs just as you would expect an original factory bike to run.  And looks exactly like an original factory bike would look after only a few thousand miles were put on it.

Over the years many of these bikes have either been raced into the ground or had the engines pulled out to put in a smaller bike leaving the close to mint original bikes very few and far between.  The current elderly owner has collected cars and motorcycles and says that these Gammas have a long way to go in terms of appreciation and wants to be sure that the next owner is going to preserve the intrinsic and cosmetic value as he has invested so much time, energy and money to bring this bike to its highest level.

Mike the master Gamma mechanic and Rick spent two long years getting this bike and all its necessary parts together to make this bike one of the finest original Gamma’s that exists.

Great bike for those who want only the finest and priced accordingly.

Asking price is $18,500 negotiable.

Other two-stroke GP replicas of the period compromised: the RD500LC famously added a balance shaft to make the bike more civilized, while Honda's NS400R went with a smaller displacement to help home-market sales. Both offered a much more refined experience, and both have a far less rabid cult following than the RG500 as a result. Prices have been steadily rising, although the RD and NS have increased in value as well, perhaps simply because RGs have been nearly unobtainable for a while now. If you've been looking for an RG and have the cash to spend, this one is worth a look.

-tad

Featured Listing: 1986 Suzuki RG500Γ Gamma for Sale
Suzuki August 18, 2017 posted by

Featured Listing: Untapped Potential – Zero-Mile 1985 Suzuki RG500Γ for Sale

Update 8.24.2017: Dean has notified us that this bike is sold. Congratulations to buyer and seller! -dc

Update 8.18.2017: Price dropped $10k to $35,000 or BEST OFFER. -dc

Update 7.31.2017: Dean has contacted us to upgrade this post to a Featured Listing. Dean mentioned that he's working to help a deceased friend's family, and that he doesn't have much history on the bike other than a 1988-89 conversation where he mentioned the bike came through Canada, maybe from the UK? The family is open to offers near the asking price. -dc

I'm obviously a big fan of the phrase "squirreled away" but it's never really been more appropriate than here to describe a zero-mile 1985 Suzuki RG500Γ. A perennial favorite here at RSBFS, the Gamma pretty much embodies everything we love about bikes: it's rare, features exotic specifications, and has very real motorsports links. Sure, the RG500's exotic, two-stroke square four shares no actual parts with Suzukis Grand Prix machines, but neither was it used in any other bike in their lineup. Much like the Desmosedici, it was designed from scratch to resemble the racebike motor, but doesn't need rebuilds after every weekend ride...

So two crankshafts, four cylinders, a slick-shifting six-speed cassette gearbox, and sophisticated suspension that featured Suzuki’s Full Floater rear suspension, a system of linkages that applies equal pressure to both the top and bottom of the rear shock. A racing-style tachometer that doesn't have any numbers lower than 3,000 to help you keep tabs on a powerband that's dead below 6,000rpm and signs off past 8,500rpm in spiky, two-stoke style. All wrapped up in racy bodywork that is much smaller in person than you'd expect.

But as authentic as the style and specification may be, the hundred-ish horses and 350lb dry weight won't have you leaving many modern sportbikes in your wake. And once you introduce a set of serious corners, those skinny little wheels and tires won't leave you all that much grip to play with. However, fans of two-stroke performance won't likely argue any of that. It's the sound, the feel, and the general lightweight character of bikes like this that won them their admirers.

From the original eBay listing: 1985 Suzuki RG500 for Sale

Purchased new in Canada, shipped to USA and put in storage. 0 Miles. Engine kicks over and 99% of bike looks beautifully new. Never had fuel in the gas tank. Never had the seat off before today. Tool kit is still folded and strapped in from the factory. Stored in dark, dry garage since 1985. Never seen sun before this year!

Inside of tank looks even more beautiful than the outside.

Note nibs still on tires. Note black rubber shipping band still on the headlight from Suzuki!

One mirror and mount are dinged from a storage incident.

Sold on bill of sale and transport is responsibility of buyer. I have shipped bikes previously and can be here for truck but nothing more.

Payment in cash or cashiers check my bank will accept and clear.

Bike is for sale locally. Also selling Honda NR750 : $145,000.

I have been on eBay since 1998. I have owned, ridden and raced motorcycles for 44 years. I have also worked in a motorcycle shop. I believe I am honestly describing the condition of this RG500. I currently own something like 20 bikes.

Considering its condition and $45,000 $35,000 asking price, you're not likely to head out to the garage on a Sunday morning, kick this RG500 over, listen to its crackling idle, then take it out for a spin. But I hope the new owner will at least give it pride of place in their living room or office, instead of storing it in a "dark, dry garage since 1985"! That just seems a sad fate for such a fêted machine. Considering what a comparably-sized sculpture might cost, this RG might actually make sense as decoration...

-tad

Featured Listing:  Untapped Potential – Zero-Mile 1985 Suzuki RG500Γ for Sale
Suzuki August 15, 2017 posted by

Fierce Little Pup: 1986 Suzuki RG250 Walter Wolf for Sale

Looking very much like someone washed an RG500 in hot water, Suzuki's RG250Γ "Gamma" featured two fewer cylinders and half the displacement, but was still packed full of race-bred technology and performance. Built between 1983 and 1987, the quarter-liter Gamma was never officially imported to the USA, but some have found their way here over the years from Canada, and their age means that more are now finding their way here in shipping containers to feed starving hordes of US two-stroke enthusiasts.

Performance available belies the mere 247cc displaced by the liquid-cooled parallel twin, as the government-mandated 45hp had its midrange boosted by Suzuki's Automatic Exhaust Control power valve system, with even more available in markets outside Japan. Skilled pilots could exploit that limited power by working the six-speed gearbox to keep the engine in the meat of the narrow two-stroke powerband, and stopping power from the triple-disc DecaPiston four-piston brake setup was excellent. Anti-dive forks were probably more useful to the marketing team than to riders, but the bike did have excellent handling and a light weight of 286lbs dry, thanks in part to the aluminum frame, although grip from the skinny 80s tires will be limited if you're used to wide modern radials.

"Walter Wolf" may sound like the name of a James Bond villain, but in reality he was simply an eccentric businessman who made his fortune in the Canadian oil business and used that fortune to sponsor several Formula 1 racing teams in the late 1970s, followed by touring cars in the early 1980s, as rich folks are wont to do. The color scheme was an unusual choice, but I happen to think the dark blue-and-red race replica colors are the most flattering for the slab-sided Gammas, although the traditional white-and-blue obviously has many fans as well.

From the original eBay listing: 1986 Suzuki RG250 Walter Wolf Replica for Sale

Very original 1986 Suzuki RG250 Gamma Walter Wolf import that has not been running in a while.  I am a collector and imported it from Japan.  Appears to be an original Walter Wolf, not a clone. The only parts that seem not to be original are possibly the brake and or clutch levers and the clip-ons or handle bars.  Over all in good original condition for its age, minor dings, scratches, not running.  Turns over and feels like good compression. Will need going thru, tires, carb kit, brake work, battery, etc, my gut says that with battery, carb rebuild and fresh gas you will have a runner.  I do have both mirrors, one off now for easier storage.  Happy to send more photos and or video.  Prefer buyer to come see in person so they see what they need to see.  Seat has small cut and tank small dings.  Overall the body panels are in nice shape and someone put plastic sheet protection tape on areas to protect paint, etc. Clock reading 9130km. Florida title.  I can help arrange shipping, have worked with a few shippers recently.  All payment funds must be fully cleared before shipping. RZ TZR NSR RGV KR1 NSR250 RGV250 TZR250 Gamma.  Questions welcome.

Very original import that has not been running in a while. The only parts that seem not to be original are possibly the brake and or clutch levers and the clip-ons or handle bars. Appears to be an original Walter Wolf, not a clone. Over all in good original condition for its age, minor dings, scratches, not running. Turns over and feels like good compression. Will need going thru, tires, carb kit, brake work, etc, my gut says that with battery, carb rebuild and fresh gas you will have a runner. Happy to send more photos and or video. Prefer buyer to come see in person so they see what they need to see. Seat has small cut and tank small dings. Overall the body panels are in nice shape and someone put plastic sheet protection tape on areas to protect paint, etc. Clock reading 9130km. Florida title 

I believe some markets made do with stock Suzuki gauge faces, but the blue and red Walter Wolf items are a good indicator that this is the real thing. Obviously, this one will need some refurbishment, but nothing outside the ordinary for a bike of this age. The cosmetics aren't perfect, but the bike looks complete, and is claimed to be very original which counts for much among collectors. And if you're not into math, that kilometers reading on the odometer means the bike has just 5,673 miles on it. With a Buy It Now price of $4,750 the seller seems to be realistic about what this bike is worth, considering the worn cosmetics and non-running condition, so if you want an 80s two-stroke sportbike and your finances won't stretch to an RG500, this might scratch that itch.

-tad

Fierce Little Pup: 1986 Suzuki RG250 Walter Wolf for Sale