Posts by tag: 955i

Triumph September 3, 2017 posted by

Future Classic?: 2000 Daytona 955i

The current big news in reborn motorcycling makers is Norton, especially now that the reborn company is rolling out its new V4 superbike but back in 1991, it was John Bloors relaunch of Triumph Motorcycles that had everyone's interest.   Triumph began with a series of both 3 and 4 cylinder engines but after a few years decided it would focus on the 3-cylinder engine configuration, in part due to cost but also due to Triumph's long history of producing 3 cylinder machines.  When it came time for the company to roll out their first new 3-cylinder sportbike the result was the Daytona series powered by a 955cc 3-cylinder engine.

2000 Daytona 955i on ebay

When it was launched in 1999, the new Daytona got very positive reviews but wasn't a a huge sales success.  There were several reasons for this; the competition such as the Fireblade and R1 were more sharply focused/delivered better performance, Triumph was still a bit of an unknown brand due to its long absence, and an odd branding moniker of T595 that was confusing to many people.  A decision was quickly made to rename the bike to to the 955i and to also re-position the bike away from the lightweight competition.  The 955i would instead be positioned as an option in the so called "sportbike-for-adults" segment dominated by the Honda VFR.

Wrapped in a very attractive design, the second generation 955i came with a Lotus designed engine that produced about 128 bhp.   In other words, not slow but not an equal to the Fireblade or R1.  Riding position was upright and comfortable, handling was neutral and build quality was excellent.  And perhaps best of all, while other bikes of the era were still being clad in graphics packages that could make your eyes bleed, all the Daytona models came in mono-chromatic paint schemes with simple and subtle graphics.  Today's listing is clad in perhaps the best of the these and seems to be the most sought after by collectors, Aluminum Silver.

Perhaps the key thing about the 955i was that it really did meet its goal of being an alternative to the VFR.   While not a pure hyperbike, it was sporting enough to deliver speeds that met the needs of almost all riders while also able to handle daily street duty, excel at weekend canyon corner carving and be comfortable enough for medium level touring.  Unfortunately, Triumph was unwilling to wait for the market to develop and after only a few years Triumph revised the bike again/rolled out a 3rd generation machine.  The new machine had an improved engine and was lighter and the bodywork was a more angular style.  While these changes moved the 955i closer to the compeition it was still no match and the new style made the 955i look similar to most other bikes of the day, thereby losing a large part of its appeal.  The effect on these changes was the opposite of what was intended and this misstep together with the development advantage of the larger Japanese companies led Triumph to discontinue their larger sportbike effort entirely in 2006.

Now lets turn our attention to this particular 955i.  Mileage is just below 10,000 miles and condition looks to be excellent.  However the seller (who seems to be a dealer) indicates some damage to the front rim but will include a new front wheel with the sale of the bike.  Unfortunately there is no information about service history and some of the pictures are a bit blurry.  Also I think the front windscreen might be aftermarket but this would need to be verified by the seller.

Here is what the seller has to say

  • Has a Black Widow performance exhaust system - a $1200 upgrade
  • Minor scuffs and scratches as shown in the pictures.
  • Small repair as noted in bottom fairing, see pictures. This is a typical area for damage.
  • Also a ding in the front wheel from a pothole. An extra front wheel comes with the bike. 

So now let's go to the question; what is this bike worth?  Well its not perfect, isn't the fastest machine of the period, had no significant race success and didn't really introduce any significant new technology.  Also the front wheel issue mentioned by the seller on this one is concerning, a VIN check is probably in order.  But on the plus side it is probably the best looking edition of the entire Daytona lineup and seems to be the model and color scheme most likely to appreciate in value over time.

I will admit that this one is tempting, especially since the current bid price is slighly over $2,000 USD while previous listings on RSBFS of this same model and color scheme have gone for around $4,500 USD.  But price is not the only point of appeal for this bike; the 2nd gen Aluminum silver edition seems to be akin to the 1993 Honda VFR 750 in that even though it wasn't the best bike of its time, it just looks right.  Sure the next generation bike 955i was technically a better motorcycle, but this is the one that would always put a smile on my face and really, isn't that a large part of the fun of a sportibke?

 

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

Future Classic?:  2000 Daytona 955i
Sport Bikes For Sale August 14, 2016 posted by

The best one: 2001 Triumph Daytona 955i with 866 miles

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2001 Triumph 955i in silver on Ebay USA

When the Triumph motorcycle company was reborn back in 1991, the company's initial lineup included a big-bore Daytona model powered by an inline 4 cylinder engine. The 1st generation Daytona editions showed that the reborn company could produce a well built bike and have actually become quite collectible, with ebay prices for the 4-cylinder models rising quite a bit recently.  After a few years and in part due to heritage as well as cost, Triumph decided to stop producing the 4-cylinder powered Daytona model and focus primarily on triple/3-cylinder bikes.  A new Daytona series was designed as the signature big-bore bike for the Hinckley-based company, with power coming from a 955cc 3-cylinder/triple powerplant.

When it was launched in 1999, the new triple powered Daytona was a huge jump forward from the previous generation, incorporating the new engine, a single sided rear swingarm and a much more modern look and feel.  However sales were lower than expected, in large part due to the bike being positioned against lightweight 900-1000cc machines like the CBR900/Fireblade and Yamaha R1.   Also the 1st year bikes came with an odd naming convention of T595, which designated the 5th engine series designed by the company but made some people assume the bike was a 600cc machine.

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Sample pic of the T595 badged edition

Reviews of the new Daytona were mostly very positive and stated that while the bike couldn't match the performance of its Japanese rivals, it was still quite appealing and made an excellent all around sport machine.

"Judge the big Triumph by its lap times and it never matches the competition but it does have two things the competition does not;  the first is personality, which is often more important to most riders than cutting seconds off lap times, and the second is the fact that it works better than the competition for daily riding.  This is due to its being more comfortable, especially now in its second incarnation.  

It’s got top notch finish and fit too, which means its looks will hold up while rivals will likely start to look rough after just a few years use."

A gentle revamp was done in 2001 which included a re-badging to the 955i moniker as well as re-positioning the big Triumph against similar all around sport machines such as the Honda VFR and Yamaha FJ series.  The result was a strong improvement in sales but the 955i was never a huge success.  Yet the 955i is still very popular among sportbike fans who want something different/distinctive that is also usable on an everyday basis.

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I have to admit I lusted after these when they came out; I loved the way they looked with the organically rounded/flowing bodywork and the single sided rear swing arm.  Sadly the next generation moved away from this style to something with more sharp angles that while popular at the time, actually made the bike look less distinctive/more like every other bike on the market and hasn't aged as well.

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Sample pic of the following generation style...snore..

This particular 2001 Triumph Daytona is extremely clean but given its ultra low mileage of 866 miles thats not totally surprising.  The only non stock items I see are an aftermarket exhaust and a rear tail unit setup (which could probably be easily sourced on ebay if desired).  The seller appears to be a dealer and doesn't include any maintenance history but the fluids and rubber do look fresh.  Of course that could just be good photography... but yow I think this bike look great.

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merged 955i

So what is this lovely (and basically new) 955cc 3 cylinder bit of British engineering worth?  Well there are currently a few other Triumph Daytona 955i's for sale on ebay right now from the same generation and prices for those seem to be right around $2,800 USD.   This even includes another "Aluminum Silver" edition for sale, although the mileage for the other one is a lot higher and the ownership situation seems a bit odd.

So $2800 USD to take this one home, right?  Nope - the bidding on this one already exceeds the Buy-It-Now price of some of those other same-generation 955i models currently listed on ebay and reserve is still not met. Why?  Well the seller is apparently a dealer which always makes the price ask a bit more and the mileage/overall condition are obvious impacting the price.  But its also important to note that the Aluminum Silver style of this generation has become THE preferred model and color scheme for a lot of collectors.  Monochrome/single color bikes  seem to become quite desired over time (ex: the 1st gen all white Honda VFR), so it should not be surprising that this bike with its all silver bodywork and matching wheels is considered to be the one most likely to appreciate in value by investment-oriented collectors.  The last one of these we had on RSBFS sold incredibly quickly for $4,000 USD and that one had over 10,000 miles, so I would expect this one to go for something above that.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

The best one: 2001 Triumph Daytona 955i with 866 miles
Triumph February 20, 2016 posted by

Dirty, Mean, and Naked – 2003 Triumph Speed Triple

Built since 1994 and still in Triumph's line-up, the Speed Triple is into its third decade of success and this 13 year-old offering looks like it might've rolled out of the showroom last week.  An edition with better engine, frame, bodywork, and nicely customized, this Speed Triple has understated good looks and seems ready for a lot more fun.

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2003 Triumph Speed Triple for sale on eBay

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Using the 955 cc fuel-injected engine from the Daytona 955i, the Speed Triple has 120 hp available.  Sporting the double-tube aluminum perimeter frame but new bodywork designed by Gareth Davies, with separate handlebar, engine, and seat fairings.  45mm forks from Showa are adjustable, as is the rear monoshock.  4-piston front calipers grip 320mm disks, with 220mm rear.  3-spoke alloy wheels are lighter than previous years.

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Nothing looks better than black, at least for the first few miles, and this Speed Triple is in super shape for 20,000 miles.  Not much on this bike has escaped update or improvement - from clip-ons to rearsets, and tuned forks to carbon hugger, it's just about a show bike.  Too much to list, but the eBay auction states:

Two-owner bike, I purchased it in 2008 from the original owner in Arizona and I have a clean title in hand. It has just under 20k miles. I bought the bike basically bone-stock and invested a significant amount of time and money to turn it into this one-of-a-kind head turner. I’ve removed the handlebar and added clip-ons, as well as changing to a Rizoma rear set, which improves the riding position to be similar to a true sport bike. It’s been custom dealer-tuned by Struthers Bros. in Des Moines to best match the upgrades made to the bike. It has an awesome pop and burble when rolling off the throttle. This bike has class and attitude and gets respect from both the sport bike and the cruiser guys. Exceptionally low miles for this model year and mechanically and cosmetically near perfect.   There are no leaks, squeaks or rattles. Always garage-kept and covered.  Never ridden in the rain.

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The lack of bodywork that makes it so easy around town collects its due when speeds rise, as rider comfort and stability at speed were not part of the specs.  But for the cafe or the boulevard, this is the fun machine.  The owner of this bike has been all over it, replacing plastic with carbon, chrome with stainless, even updating the headlight lenses.  Not just a cosmetic exercise, the engine has been tuned to the exhaust, suspension tuned, bearings and brakes improved.   A surprising list of included spares and maintenance supplies complete the picture and make this Speed Triple worth a second or third look, maybe after you park it at the show...

-donn

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Dirty, Mean, and Naked – 2003 Triumph Speed Triple
Triumph September 3, 2015 posted by

Red Arrow – 2003 Triumph Daytona 955i

Renamed the 955i in 1999 after the confusing introduction as the T595, Triumph's big triple had Lotus engineering under the bodywork.  A re-design in 2002 ( the 100th year of Triumph motorcycles ) resulted in 149 hp and a less generic fairing design.  The Daytona maintained the strong dual-tube perimeter frame and re-introduced the alloy single-sided swingarm.

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2003 Triumph Daytona 955i

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With forged steel crank and connecting rods, and forged aluminum pistons, the 955i could cope with 12:1 compression and nearly 11,000 rpm.  Handling the 155 mph are conventional forks and rear monoshock, kept in check by 320mm dual front disks with 220mm rear.  The fairings and carbon infill panels by transportation designer Gareth Davies hang together very well, the carbon complementing the black seat.  Close to 450 lbs. fueled, the 955i tested steady and smoothly powerful if not super quick.

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Offered by a Milwaukee dealer, there are lots of photos of the Daytona and it looks very good.  Substantially stock, it does have an aftermarket 3-into-1 exhaust with carbon muffler, which is nice with the other carbon details.  Tires appear to be about half-life, on those racey white wheels.  From the eBay auction:

The Daytona 955i remains one of the few true superbikes to offer a rare combination of astonishing performance and maximum usability. Delivering 147bhp from its fuel-injected 955cc engine, the sheer drive from the second generation three-cylinder power unit remains one of its most alluring characteristics. Not to mention that the three-cylinder engine provides a unique sound that stands out in a crowd of four-cylinder sportbikes.

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With just over 14,000 miles, this 955i is ready for a lot more fun.  The bodywork is in nice shape, with no apparent incidents.  No telling what the reserve might be, but if the service history could be developed ( or some maintenance negotiated ) this superbike might just be an excellent value.  All it needs is a white stripe, a larger Union Jack and maybe a roundel or two...

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-donn

 

Red Arrow – 2003 Triumph Daytona 955i
Triumph July 8, 2015 posted by

Silver Surfer: 2001 Triumph 955i in Silver

NOTE: This one sold while I was writing this post which isn't really surprising because among fans of the Triumph Daytona series, this is one of the most desired.   Even though it has already moved to a new owner I think its still worthy of a post.

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I am a big fan of the early edition Triumph Daytona, I love the 1st gen bodywork style, the big 3-cylinder/triple engine and the trick single sided rear swingarm.   The Big Daytona was the first serious sport bike from the reborn Triumph motor company, but was oddly named the T595 in its first year.  The designation was meant to identify the engine series (T5) and then the displacement (955) but a lot of people though the Daytona was a 600cc bike.   In the 2nd year the bike was renamed as the 955i and offered with several limited edition boywork styles, including a luscious blue and the lovely solid silver seen on this bike.

Even though the 955i was their first serious sportbike, it wasn't ever intended to be directly competitive against hyperbikes like the Yamaha R1.  The 955i is more of the British version of the excellent Honda VFR; able to handle daily street duty, excell at weekend canyon corner carving and comfortable enough for medium level touring.  While not a hyperbike the 955 was no slacker in the grunt department; the Daytona moves along incredibly briskly due to a  955cc displacement three-cylinder engine designed in part by Lotus.

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2001 Triumph 955i in rare silver on ebay

Seriously, I love the look of this edition of the bike, it looks much more organic, more shapely that the later versions.   The next generation also ditched the single sided rear swingarm for a standard setup and were more sharply focused, with less weight and sharper rake.

The only issue I see with this one is the aftermarket exhaust which looks odd and shows some evidence of being down.  The seller indicates the exhaust was an ebay aftermarket purchase so perhaps it came like this

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Mileage is a lower 10,xxx miles and condition looks to excellent.   The seller indicates that they are an older rider which probably accoutns for the excellent condition of the bike.

Here is what the seller has to say:

  • Bought this bike in the most "stock" condition I could find at the time
  • Bike has never been dropped, shifts smoothly
  • Only slight mods like bar-risers for comfort and a smoked screen for looks.
  • Carbon Pipe is Ebay Buy with a grind, not related to handling of the bike, just sounds too good to switch out.
  • Took Mirrors off for storage, but they are in excellent shape, and available.
  • Bike has been stored indoors for it's life and it shows that way.
  • Comes with LSL rear sets which look trick.
  • Going on 51 years old, I don't trash my bikes.  I also never go near the red line, no need to for my enjoyment.
  • Still breaks my heart to sell her, she has so much soul and character.  I remember very vividly when these came out, and I was in Love at first Sight!

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Normally at this point I would be asking whether this lovely 955i was worth the $4,000 USD asking price but since it sold in less than 24 hours I guess we know the answer to that question.   I know KBB prices show a value below the asking price but this 1st edition/955i badged version seems to be the hot/collectible style.  

To be honest, I was seriously considering making an offer myself but it sold before I could get my act together.  I would suggest that any collector act fast if they see one of these become available near them, especially the 955i version in silver or the even rarer, all blue.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

 

Silver Surfer:  2001 Triumph 955i in Silver
Quick Spot June 14, 2010 posted by

2002 Triumph Daytona 955i Centennial Edition in IL

2002 Triumph Daytona 955i Centennial Edition in IL

Here is something a little different.  1 of 200 made.   The CE edition differs from the standard 955i in several ways:

Aston Green color which is was only availabe on the CE

Some carbon bits including a hugger and tank inlays

Single sided swing arm

Forged steel crankshaft and connecting rods and forged aluminum pistons.  Result is more hp compared to the standard 955i

 

This might be a nice opportunity to pick up a limited edition bike with some nice upgrades at a very reasonable price.  The seller is asking $4700 and the bike is listed on Craigslist.

IK