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Triumph August 3, 2015 posted by

Cheap and Fun: 2005 Triumph Speed Four for Sale

2005 Triumph Speed Four R Side Look, I love the Bimota Tesi and the Honda RC30 as much as the next guy. But if you stare too long at the sun, you'll go blind.

Also, I can't afford those bikes.

So while I do love to look and lust after them, I also love to look around for more affordable exotica, Rare Sport Bikes for Sale that ordinary shlubs need not just aspire to, but ones we can actually afford. Sometimes with what we can find digging in the couch cushions.

Something like this Triumph Speed Four

2005 Triumph Speed Four Tank

TT600 on which the Speed Four was based was an also-ran: up against the technical perfection of the Japanese 600cc sportbikes of the period, it would have been nearly impossible to compete in quantifiable terms. So the 600 was a bit of a flop: not fast enough, or reliable enough to satisfy the mind, and too bland to thrill the heart.

2005 Triumph Speed Four Cockpit

But the Speed Four took that slightly underpowered engine and put it into a package where a few bhp didn't matter and created a rip-roaring little naked that had basically no competition. While the Japanese nakeds were heavier and slower than their fully-faired counterparts, Triumph didn't really have things like "new frame" in the budget or "previous generation engine" lying around, so the the Speed Four is remarkably similar to the TT600 on which it's based. They basically slapped on some headlights and a flyscreen, along with those weird intake tubes that make it look like some sort of two-wheeled mosquito, fit the engine with some softer cams with fuel injection to "match" [more on that in a minute] and let it loose.

2005 Triumph Speed Four Front

The formula worked, and reviewers on both sides praised the handling of the new naked. The only fly in the ointment, aside from the love-it-or-hate-it looks was the relatively primitive fuel-injection that made for an unpleasant in-town experience, something that was even more pronounced in the TT600. Fortunately, a bit of work with a Power Commander can smooth that out for you. The Speed Four had about 85rwhp, some 10 down on the TT, but that's still plenty to have fun with and was good for a top speed of 135mph, which gets pretty windy on a naked bike...

From the original eBay listing: 2005 Triumph Speed Four for Sale

A 599 cc inline four cylinder with 20k miles.
Fun bike that is home on the track or on the road.
I use the bike to commute to work daily.
Garage kept.
New rear tire.
Dealer serviced.

I much prefer these in black, as it reduces the impact of those nostril-thingies. But these also came in orange and a vivid lime green as well, and you can't beat that for something that flips a middle finger at society, before you even thumb the starter.

2005 Triumph Speed Four R Detail

With a Buy It Now price of just $3,500 it's pretty hard to top this in terms of bang-for-the-buck if you want something that offers more than just outright speed. This bike does have some miles on it, but appears to be in good condition and that really does just speak to the fundamental goodness of the package.

2005 Triumph Speed Four Dash

Cheap, fast, practical, and tons of fun, it's a bike you can hoon around on. It might benefit from a set of handlebars to replace the clip-ons, but that's a relatively easy thing to fix. Quality construction should see even high-mileage examples cleaning up well, although some parts might be annoying to source. Luckily, that wouldn't include bodywork!

-tad

2005 Triumph Speed Four L Side

Cheap and Fun: 2005 Triumph Speed Four for Sale
Triumph July 8, 2015 posted by

Silver Surfer: 2001 Triumph 955i in Silver

NOTE: This one sold while I was writing this post which isn't really surprising because among fans of the Triumph Daytona series, this is one of the most desired.   Even though it has already moved to a new owner I think its still worthy of a post.

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I am a big fan of the early edition Triumph Daytona, I love the 1st gen bodywork style, the big 3-cylinder/triple engine and the trick single sided rear swingarm.   The Big Daytona was the first serious sport bike from the reborn Triumph motor company, but was oddly named the T595 in its first year.  The designation was meant to identify the engine series (T5) and then the displacement (955) but a lot of people though the Daytona was a 600cc bike.   In the 2nd year the bike was renamed as the 955i and offered with several limited edition boywork styles, including a luscious blue and the lovely solid silver seen on this bike.

Even though the 955i was their first serious sportbike, it wasn't ever intended to be directly competitive against hyperbikes like the Yamaha R1.  The 955i is more of the British version of the excellent Honda VFR; able to handle daily street duty, excell at weekend canyon corner carving and comfortable enough for medium level touring.  While not a hyperbike the 955 was no slacker in the grunt department; the Daytona moves along incredibly briskly due to a  955cc displacement three-cylinder engine designed in part by Lotus.

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2001 Triumph 955i in rare silver on ebay

Seriously, I love the look of this edition of the bike, it looks much more organic, more shapely that the later versions.   The next generation also ditched the single sided rear swingarm for a standard setup and were more sharply focused, with less weight and sharper rake.

The only issue I see with this one is the aftermarket exhaust which looks odd and shows some evidence of being down.  The seller indicates the exhaust was an ebay aftermarket purchase so perhaps it came like this

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Mileage is a lower 10,xxx miles and condition looks to excellent.   The seller indicates that they are an older rider which probably accoutns for the excellent condition of the bike.

Here is what the seller has to say:

  • Bought this bike in the most "stock" condition I could find at the time
  • Bike has never been dropped, shifts smoothly
  • Only slight mods like bar-risers for comfort and a smoked screen for looks.
  • Carbon Pipe is Ebay Buy with a grind, not related to handling of the bike, just sounds too good to switch out.
  • Took Mirrors off for storage, but they are in excellent shape, and available.
  • Bike has been stored indoors for it's life and it shows that way.
  • Comes with LSL rear sets which look trick.
  • Going on 51 years old, I don't trash my bikes.  I also never go near the red line, no need to for my enjoyment.
  • Still breaks my heart to sell her, she has so much soul and character.  I remember very vividly when these came out, and I was in Love at first Sight!

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Normally at this point I would be asking whether this lovely 955i was worth the $4,000 USD asking price but since it sold in less than 24 hours I guess we know the answer to that question.   I know KBB prices show a value below the asking price but this 1st edition/955i badged version seems to be the hot/collectible style.  

To be honest, I was seriously considering making an offer myself but it sold before I could get my act together.  I would suggest that any collector act fast if they see one of these become available near them, especially the 955i version in silver or the even rarer, all blue.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

 

Silver Surfer:  2001 Triumph 955i in Silver
Triumph May 16, 2015 posted by

Triple sec – Sweet 1995 Triumph Daytona 900 Super III

Revived by entrepreneur John Bloor after their final bankruptcy in 1983, Triumph Motorcycles engineered a family of engines using a 76mm diameter piston and established a manufacturing facility in Thailand.  The venerable brand celebrated it centenary in 2002 and has continued manufacture and now completes almost 50,000 motorcycles per year.  This particular bike is a nice example of one of their best machines.

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1995 Triumph Daytona 900 Super III

20150515 1995 triumph daytona 900 super iii right front

Initially designed in 1989, the smooth-running 885cc triple underwent a major review in 1993 and with Cosworth's help emerged with 115hp, and somewhat lighter thanks to pressure casting the engine cases.  Too busy trying to stay alive to enter into racing, modern Triumph cycles never experienced the weight loss racing requires, and the Super III carries 465 lbs wet.  But with the aluminum frame, 43mm forks, 310mm front disks, the entire package tests lighter than it should, a well-balanced handler.

20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii cockpit  20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii left tank

20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii left seat fairing  20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii left engine

The speed yellow fairing on this example appears better than excellent, the lower reaches of the classic shape protected from chips by automotive film.   The black monoposto seat looks cushy and in nice shape, the pillion seat under a fairing.  Very polished and very pretty 3-into-1 header with carbon muffler appears to be the only modification, and belies the 8900 miles the odometer shows.  Have to like it when someone's been detailing the engine !

20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii right engine detail  20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii right rear wheel

20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii tool kit  20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii right engine

From the eBay auction:

Proudly kept and displayed indoors with only 8900 original miles. (That's less than 450 miles/year)100% Original everything*. Perfect condition; no scratches, dents, or nicks of any kind. Carbon fiber everywhere. Aluminum 6.6 gallon tank.

As second owner, I've meticulously maintained the bike in every way. All questions will be answered immediately.

20150515 1995 triumph 900 super iii right rear

Though a revised 675cc engine has led to recent racing successes by a contingent of privateers, the Daytona Super III was developed before the racing program and is a smooth, powerful road bike, the 1995 being a nice update from the original design.  This auction looks to be for one of the very best of this model.

Triple sec – Sweet 1995 Triumph Daytona 900 Super III
Triumph May 2, 2015 posted by

1st of the 2nd: 1st gen Triumph T595 Daytona in yellow

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1997 Triumph T595 (955cc) Daytona for sale on ebay

Here is a personal favorite of yours truly, a 1st generation Triumph Daytona T595.  Although these bikes carried a model designation of "T595", the 1st generation of the reborn Daytona actually featured a 955 cc displacement three-cylinder engine designed in part by Lotus.   Along with the other triple-cylinder Triumphs, the Daytona helped to establish the newly reborn Triumph as a real alternative motorcycle manufacturer.

The big Daytona was the first serious big sportbike for the reborn Triumph but it couldn't compete with the best the Japanese had to offer (especially when Yamaha brought out the R1 in 1998).  While the big Daytona wasn't able to match the hardcore sportbikes from Japan, it was big, fast, smooth, comfy, able to do medium level touring while still looking great.  The big triple was often referred to as a British version of the Honda VFR and even though the bike couldn't compete with the hyperbikes appearing out of Japan, reviewers were generally positive.

Here is an excerpt from Viserdown.com:

Judge the bike by its lap times and you’d have to agree; the T595 never matches the Japanese competition but the big Triumph does have two real aces. The first is personality which counts for an awful lot, much more to most of us than shaving fractions of seconds off lap times. In the Daytona’s case much of it comes from the Triumph three cylinder engine’s rough charm. The second ace is it’s a bike which works better on real roads than it does on a racetrack. It’s more stable and easy to use than the Japanese competition.

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This 1997 Daytona T595 looks amazingly clean with only 9263 miles.  There are a few nicks in the paint but certainly nothing major and no evidence of the bike being down.

Here is what the seller has to say

  • 100% original '97 Triumph Daytona T595 (955cc)
  • New TORS carbon low exhaust + updated to corresponding tune
  • Service done in the last 50 miles includes
  • Valve adjustment
    Entire intake tract cleaned. Spotless down to the valves.
    Injectors pro cleaned + flow benched
    New fuel pump, pressure regulator, fuel filter, hoses, + dry break fittings
    Coolant flush + fill w/ engine ice
    Flushed brakes
    New plugs, air filter, hoses, gaskets, o-rings, grommets, etc.

  • New AGM battery 1 year ago on float
  • Only non-triumph parts are the fuel pump + pressure regulator<
  • Only cosmetic flaws are ichip in the rear lens + few small paint chips on fender and tank.
  • Bike has been in the family since 1999. Tires should be replaced soon, lot of tread but old

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Is this big Daytona worth the $3,800 asking price?  Well while the 1998 version in silver (when it was marked as the 955i) is the most popular among collectors, this is still a hell of a lot of bike for not much money. Overall I think this one is being offered at pretty close to the right price and may be a good opportunity for a "more experienced" rider who still wants a sportbike to have something that can do everything they need.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

1st of the 2nd:  1st gen Triumph T595 Daytona in yellow
Triumph March 14, 2015 posted by

The other 600: 2002 Triumph TT600

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Here is one we haven't had on RSBFS before, a 1st gen Triumph TT600.  Despite being the first 600cc sportbike with fuel injection, the introductory triumph 600cc bikes have been pretty much forgotten about, which is a shame because they are actually excellent "intro/learner" bikes for people new to 600cc sportbikes.

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2002 Triumph TT600 for sale on ebay

The first generation TT600 always had excellent handling and brakes but also suffered a marked lack of power low down and too much throttle hesitancy.  Also the styling was considered slightly "meh" with oddball molded air intakes and a somewhat overly large exhaust silencer/canister.

The engine mapping issues were resolved for 2002 but the bike still had a few recalls which isnt surprising given it was a completely new engine for Triumph.   The real problem was that even after the fixes there wasn't really anything to make the TT600 into an object of lust.  Also the 600cc Triumph was still more expensive than the japanese models.

I suppose its not surprising the that the Triumph 600cc models didn't really start selling until the next generation, the Daytona edition.  Sales really going at the next generation of the 600cc, the excellent 675 but the 2002 and onward TT600 are still really good bikes, especially for newer riders.

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This particular TT600 looks to be in excellent shape, with just a few scrapes/small cracks in the fairing.  Mileage is actually a bit higher than I expected at over 14000 miles but this does show that the bike isn't fragile.  However no mention is made of service history so recall fixes should be verified.  Also any buyer might want to assume fluids and new rubber as part of the ownership cost.

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Is this TT600 worth the asking price of $3,200 USD.   To be honest, probably not...even though it is a bit of a rare sportbike, KBB retail seems to be slightly over 2,000 USD so some haggling would probably be in order.  Also, unlike the 1st generation Triumph speed triple, these bikes will probably never appreciate significantly....but they are a bit of a rare sportbike and are a good, basic 600cc sportbike.  Perhaps a RSBFS fan in florida could pick this one up as a daily rider or to introduce a younger family member into the joys of owning something different.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

The other 600:  2002 Triumph TT600
Triumph November 12, 2014 posted by

Cosworth: 1995 Triumph Daytona Super III 900

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Triumph Motorcycles Ltd. is the largest surviving British motorcycle manufacturer but it hasn't been an easy path for the Uk-based manufacturer.  The entire British bike industry basically collapsed back in the early 1980's and  Triumph went into receivership in 1983.  After a few years and a lot of legal wrangling, British businessman John Bloor ended up acquiring the name and manufacturing rights and his "new" Triumph motorcycle company re-started sportbike production in the early 1990's.

Between 1992 and 1997 Triumph produced the much appreciated but ultimately underpowered 3 cylinder Daytona 900. This bike was a successor to the 0riginal Daytona 750 and boasted a more acceptable riding position designed to increase its sporting ability.  But the power to weight ratio was still a problem, especially when compared to other bikes at the time such as the GSX-R and the ultra-light Fireblade/CBR.  So for the 1994 model year Triumph produced the Daytona Super III, a very limited production run of 150 bikes designed to help re-balance the power/weight issue for the big Triple.

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1995 Daytona Super III for sale on ebay

The Daytona Super III had a host of changes from its predecessor, with the major one being a significantly more powerful engine. The power improvements were due to a collaboration with the tuning gurus at Cosworth and was accomplished by using higher compression pistons and a redesigned cylinder head. The end result was a power increase from 97 bhp to 115 bhp.  Overall the Super III was a more responsive and higher performance ride, and also had many parts switched to carbon fiber and improved brakes.

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While the new Daytona sill wasn't as light and agile as the CBR/Fireblade, it was certainly a big step forward and it offered something the ultra-light hyperbikes did not; the ability to be used for both blazing speed runs and medium duty touring.    Almost immediately after being introduced, the Super III was identified as a speed touring monster; consider the following review from the August 1995 issue of Motorcyclist magazine.

 First thing you notice is it isn't in the same mold as Japanese race replicas such as Suzuki's GSX-Rs,  it feels long, tall and still a bit heavy.  It can't flick through chicanes like a repli-GP machine and it doesn't rev way into five figures. But the Daytona is deceptive; its point-to-point performance is superb, with most of the credit for this belonging to a new engine that ticks over with a slightly cantankerous rumble that tells you 'I'm an engine'.  From the instant you press the button, the Triumph exudes the sort of engine character that Japan largely designed out years ago. 

There are no bottom-end flat spots, just a rising tide of willing revs. The Daytona Super III is content to potter at slow speeds but useful power begins to swell at 3000rpm, continues unabated until the 9500rpm red line and at no point does it ever feel remotely stressed.  Peak revs equates to 148mph in top gear which might not seem impressive in an age of 150mph 600s but it is how the new triple's getting there that sets it apart.  While most engines of comparable range are either bland or plain slow, the 900 is a speed touring monster, an unburstable projectile from A to B. 

The rest of the package is of the same high quality.  The gear changes are positive, with no under-selection, the truck-sized clutch practically redundant once on the move. Six speeds is overkill, but allows relaxed top gear ratios. In almost every area, the bike seems over-engineered. 

The Super III does a superb job of filling a segment that seems to have been vacated except for the ZZR; charismatic sportbike that can also be used as a daily rider and medium distance touring machine.   No doubts that this bike will become an important piece of the reborn Triumphs legacy and a future classic.

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This particular Super III looks to be amazingly pristine.  The seller includes excellent hi-res photos on the ebay auction and also a link to a youtube video.

Here is some of what the seller has to say about this particular Super III.

If you have been looking for a collectable Triumph from the modern era, this is the one!   There were only 150 of these bikes worldwide.Bike only has 9767 original miles, has always been garaged and has never been in the rain. Special features include carbon fiber fender and sub-fender, carbon dash, 6 pot calipers, and seat cowling. Paint and carbon fiber look as new. All fluids are fresh and bike has been maintained perfectly.Tires are almost new with 95% tread remaining. Lots of extras (see auction for details)

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So what's this particular Super III worth?  The KBB website doesn't have a price for these which is a common problem if the bike is produced in small numbers like this one was.  A few Super III's previously posted here on RSBFS seemed to go for around 3-5k USD, which is pretty cheap for a bike that gives you this much performance and versatility and given the outstanding condition of this example, I would expect price expectations to be at the upper part of the range.   This bike seems like an excellent opportunity for a collector to acquire a pretty rare bike that they could also use on a regular basis without having to go to the chiropractor afterwards.

MG

Cosworth: 1995 Triumph Daytona Super III 900