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KTM October 14, 2018 posted by

Just in Time for Halloween: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

In spite of very positive reviews, the RC8R, KTM's Origami Superbike, never sold well. Some feel it was that the original iteration wasn't quite ready for prime time, with a power deficit and a crunchy gearbox, along with some pretty basic electronics, compared to Ducati's 1198. The bike's high price tag probably didn't help things either. The second generation seen here addressed the first two issues, but the bike was always an analog holdout in an increasingly digital class.

Maybe it was that the people that buy superbike riders are a snobby bunch and didn't want to take a chance on an expensive new machine built by a dirt bike manufacturer. Or maybe they just aren't fans of orange. You'd think they'd have gotten the message that the bike would perform, since KTM's earlier 990 SuperDuke and Supermoto had gotten pretty good reviews. The heart of the beast was an updated version of those bikes' liquid-cooled 75° v-twin that originally displaced 1148cc in the RC8, although it was later increased to 1195cc for the 2010 RC8R model, with an output of 175hp and a pretty massive 90 ft-lbs of torque.

It didn't compete against the class leaders when you compared spec sheets, but the KTM was never really about the pure numbers or technology simply for the sake of it. It was designed to actually function as a motorcycle, and the bike's adjustable ergonomics were intended to work for a wide range of riders and riding styles, from dedicated track day junkies to casual weekend sportbikers. These were difficult to shift when new, but have managed to hang on to their values on the used market pretty well. Those few folks that bought them seem to love them and I think people realized quickly that the RC8R would eventually be considered a classic.

From the original eBay listing: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

11,949 Miles
250 models were made for North America for 2011 and 2012 years
Clean VIN/Title
Adult Owned and Maintained (unmolested by dumbasses)
All Receipts
Not Raced
Major Service at 10,836 ($1,840.34) KTM Motor Cafe
Frame Sliders
Axle Sliders
New Tires
Oil Changed
Coolant Changed and Orange Samco hoses added
New Brake Fluid
New Battery w/ Tender Dongle
New Pads Front/Rear
New Rear Rotor
Fork Seals
Billet Aluminum Orange KTM goodies
Rear Orange Carbon Fender
Smoked Front Fairing
Rottweiler Stage 3 SAS Removal System
Luimoto Seat Gel Insert
Luimoto Seat Cover
300 Page Owners/Service Manual

KBB @ $10,975.00
KBB Average Expected Miles @ 20,030

$11,000 Cash In My Hand or NO Test Rides.... NO BS

There's Something About That Listing That Bothers Me, But I Can't Quite Put My Finger On It... We surely all feel the pain of tire-kickers and looky-loos, and you'd better believe I agree with the seller's last line, but I'm pretty sure people that do that stuff won't be deterred by anyone putting "no BS" in their listing. Sort of like putting "no players or married guys" in your online dating profile... And the list of service and parts is nice but that "new rear rotor".... sorry: "New Rear Rotor" makes me a little nervous. How the hell did that happen? Anyway, at $11,000 this isn't the cheapest or the lowest-mileage RC8R I've seen for sale recently, but it's a clean example and those striking colors fit my Halloween theme.

-tad

Just in Time for Halloween: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale
KTM June 26, 2018 posted by

Orange Crush: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

First of all, a big shout out to all of the RareSportbikesforSale fans I met at Laguna Seca over the weekend while working with the guys at the Iconic Motorbikes booth! Was really great to meet you and hear your stories. Also, I apologize profusely for any financial difficulties or domestic drama our little blog may have caused...

The KTM RC8R was introduced in 2008, making the design ten years old now, but honestly, it's unlikely that anyone unfamiliar with the bike would ever realize it's been around that long. Pretty much every available color combination was : from the planar stealth-fighter look of the all-black version to the origami white-and-black design, they all make the bike look like a pre-production concept or a design student's digital rendering.

My favorite though is the orange-and-white scheme seen here. I have no idea what anyone else calls it, but I refer to this color combination as "Creamsicle." Apparently, KTM owners recognize the cartoonish quality because I've seen a SoCal RC8R in these colors with a large "ORANGE CRUSH" bottlecap sticker on the fairing... But the upside to KTM's concept-bike styling made flesh is that it still looks fresh nearly a decade on.

Under the brash looks was surprising practicality: ergonomics were highly adjustable, and the bike was designed for ease of maintenance. The 75° v-twin originally displaced 1148cc although it was later increased to 1195cc for the 2010 model, with an output of 175hp and a stump-pulling 90 ft-lbs of torque, right on par with other twins of the period. Of course the liquid-cooled lump featured four-valves and chain-driven cams, along with twin spark plugs per cylinder. Unfortunately, the early models were plagued by a clunky gearbox and high prices, although the second-generation bikes with the larger engine were much improved.

From the original eBay listing: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale

Excellent condition, garage kept 2,200 miles. Tons of tasteful upgrades. Around 2,200 miles and may go up a little as I still ride her some.
Clear title in hand. Only 1 of 250 imported from 2012 and 2011 in US.
Tons of extras as you can see including matte carbon fiber front and rear fenders.
Next service not due for over 3k miles.
Never wrecked, never down, no scratches and no surprises.
My favorite sport bike on the planet, fully-adjustable for all size riders, and that twin!
Why am I selling? Scaling back and slowing down. At least for now…

The listed price for this RC8R is $10,400 which seems very reasonable, considering what sellers are typically asking, the very low miles, extras, and general condition. It obviously doesn't have the top end power of a Panigale, but that's not necessarily a problem, considering the fact that the Pani already seems to be a bit of a handful. And a lack of electronic aids might also appeal to experienced riders who want a relatively analog experience in an increasingly digital landscape. The distinctive looks are aging particularly well, I'm just never sure that, as much as I love this particular color combination, I'd have the nerve to actually ride one: subtle, it is not. Especially with the accessory Akrapovic exhaust I'd want fitted...

-tad

Orange Crush: 2012 KTM RC8R for Sale
KTM December 24, 2017 posted by

The year that was: 2011 KTM RC8R

For a too-brief period of time, KTM offered a raucous 1195cc 75 degree V-twin encased in a stout trellis frame and enveloped in bodywork that could only be inspired by origami sculpture. And while the RC8 turned heads on the street, it took the upscale model "R" model to make a real impact in the racing community. Alas KTM had bigger fish to fry than AMA and FIM Superbike series (heading to MotoGP, Moto2 & Moto3), discontinuing the RC8 lineup a few short years later. KTM CEO and President Stefan Piere actually stated to the press that KTM would no longer produce a street-going superbike as he did not believe it was morally responsible for the company to create something that could not be utilized safely on the street. Thankfully examples like this 2011 RC8R are still available on the used market.

2011 KTM RC8R for sale on eBay

The introduction of the "R" coincided with a bump in displacement from 1,148 to 1195cc across the entire RC8 lineup. But the R offered much more than just a bigger bang. Relatively unique to KTM, the RC8R provided for a vast array of adjustments similar to what you would expect on a race bike. From levers to pegs, suspension and sub-frame height, the RC8R was an open book for a rider who knew what they wanted. And when set up correctly, the RC8R could be as potent as any of its peers, as proven by Chris Filmore in AMA Superbike competition.

From the seller:
2011 KTM RC8R
3,372 miles
Mint condition
License plate fender eliminator kit
Original license plate bracket in perfect shape
New tires, plus an extra set of tires

This example looks pretty impressive. With only 3,372 miles on the digital clocks, today's example has not traveled very far down the highway. The fender elimination kit gives the bike an extremely clean tail. And while mods are nearly always frowned upon, the inclusion of the original pieces in the sale mean this bike can be returned to stock shape if desired. Until then, I would revel in the sharp looks of this beast and ride the heck out of it.

The seller is asking $10,900 in a Buy It Now auction format. That is pretty much in the ballpark for one of these models in this condition, if not a little on the upper side of the range. Thankfully the seller is open to offers, so there may be some Christmas spirit left in this relatively rare Austrian beauty. Check it out here and make the man an offer - KTM won't be building them like this any longer. Good Luck!!

MI

KTM November 14, 2017 posted by

Origami Superbike: 2010 KTM RC8R 1190 for Sale

Origami, if you’re not familiar, is the Japanese art of paper folding, and the resulting creations look like angular, abstract animals. KTM’s RC8R takes folded paper style to extremes, with elemental shapes and broad, flat panels that would look more at home on a concept bike than a production machine, like an origami Ducati 916. There are no random graphics, fake vents or weirdly-sculpted surfaces. It looks almost like a papercraft model, a cartoon rendition of a superbike, especially in the plain white seen here on today’s RC8, with only the black tailpiece and belly-pan to break up the factory-fresh racebike look.

The RC8 was a surprisingly thoughtful machine, considering its brash looks and high-performance. The bike features highly adjustable ergonomics, and appears to have been designed for taller riders, instead of 5’8”, 140lb moto jockeys. The 75° v-twin displaced 1148cc and featured four-valves and chain-driven cams, along with twin spark plugs per cylinder, although it was later bumped to 1195cc for the 2010 model, for an output of 175hp and an arm-stretching 90 ft-lbs of torque.

I really love KTM’s brash approach to styling: their bikes are love-it-or-hate-it affairs, with bright colors and futuristic designs that seem to age well. From an aesthetic point of view, my favorite RC8 scheme is the orange-and-white but, when you see them in person, they’re almost too much, too in-your-face. So for myself, I think I might prefer a bike with this, much more elegant style. KTM RC8s don't come up for sale too often, at least not without outrageous price tags approaching their MSRP. You want what for a seven year old motorcycle that was a tough sell, even when new? Fortunately, today's isn't in perfect showroom condition, but miles are still low and the price is much more reasonable.

 

From the original eBay listing: 2010 KTM RC8R for Sale

Clean title in hand
Low mileage (7,100 miles)
Full Akrapovic Exhaust with Secondary Air System Delete (tuned accordingly)
R&G Tidy Tail fender eliminator
LED headlight bulbs
Tech Spec tank grippers
Brand new Q3 tires front and rear
Shorai Lithium battery

Very Minor scuffing of front left fairing
Yellowing found on tank from old tank protector adhesive
Typical burning of headlight housing from halogen bulbs (replaced to led, heat is no longer an issue)
All services up to date. 

The Buy It Now price for this example is just $8,999 which is very appealing, considering the solid condition, relatively low miles, and the inclusion of the desirable Akrapovič exhaust. When bikes are new, accessories are often available from companies at the higher end of the retail spectrum. But ten years on, you might end up fitting your exotic sportbike with a TwoBros pipe if it doesn't already have something like this.

-tad

Origami Superbike: 2010 KTM RC8R 1190 for Sale
KTM September 29, 2017 posted by

Superbike Alternative: Low Mileage 2014 KTM RC8R for Sale

KTM's booming orange RC8 was a bit flawed when it was introduced, but still represented a hugely impressive effort by the first-time superbike maker. They'd worked out some of bugs of the new 75° v-twin using their earlier 990 Superduke that was a bit of a half-step between the supermoto Duke and the superbike RC8. KTM had plenty of experience winning races, but developing a new, large-displacement v-twin and gearbox is always tricky business, especially when you're used to building offroad singles. Getting Honda-levels of polish, a must in this market, was always going to be a challenge. Unfortunately, the RC8 launched with a crunchy, relatively unrefined gearbox and a slight power deficit. It was expensive as well, and it seemed that few buyers were willing to give an untested product from the upstart Austrians a real chance.


The design was striking and angular, with typically KTM styling touches like the bright orange frame, available orange-and-white color scheme, a weird, orange-tinted LCD gauge cluster and, wonder-of-wonders, humane ergonomics, even for riders over six feet tall! And if you didn't like the set up, you could always move things around to suit: the bars and pegs and even the seat were adjustable. Performance was on par with the Ducati superbikes of the period, but it lacked their hard edge and sophisticated [for the period] electronics. The high cost of the RC8, combined with a perceived lack of prestige, kept sales disappointingly slow. It's a shame, as the potential was clearly there, and the problems with the original RC8 were largely ironed out by the time the RC8R was introduced in 2009, with more power from the larger, dual-plug version of the engine that gave a claimed 175hp and an updated gearbox.

Unfortunately, KTM's management has declaimed superbikes as "having no place on public roads," ironic considering their wild Superduke R and its attendant "Ready to Race" tag line and promotional videos... They have publicly stated that the company will not produce a successor to the RC8R, which is disappointing, considering the performance and handling of their Superduke R. A modern RC8R based around that platform would be an impressive machine. It is possible to retrofit the 1290 engine into an RC8, but not an easy job for a do-it-yourselfer...

This particular example is basically brand new. Somewhere out there, I'm sure someone has a new-in-crate RC8R, but I very much doubt there are too many of these running around with miles as low, and in such nice condition: many period reviews praised the RC8's balance of comfort and superbike performance, so it's easy to see them being used as intended, instead of as garage ornaments.

From the original eBay listing: 2014 KTM RC8R for Sale

You are bidding on what may be the lowest mileage 2014 RC8R in the world. Loaded with upgrades and standard factory performance of the "R" model this is an exceptional sport bike you just don't see at every show, track day or cycle cruise. With only a little over 500 miles I found this brand new less than a year ago, however it was damaged in the shipping crate but never started, in fact it still had the factory shipping wax on the chain. I purchased this from the dealer and all it needed was replacement bodywork, I registered it in my name as the first owner and now its still under factory warranty! I also had the bike dealer prepped and fully serviced this year for its maiden voyage however Ive found that I have too many bikes to ride and although I love to walk by and look at it, maybe its better you ride it and enjoy. Its never been raced, been to the track, dropped and is just finished the break in mileage so its good to go whenever your'e ready, in fact the miles are so low you can still read the continental tire stamp in the tread.

 Original MSRP was $16,499 and this model year came with the slipper clutch plus 173 hp!

UPGRADES
Carbon fiber bodywork
Carbon fiber wrap
Pazzo levers
Billet quick action gas cap
Puig smoke wind screen
Competition Werkes fender eliminator
Jester 68 stainless exhaust (sounds great)
Luimoto custom seat
Etc, etc, etc. 
 
Bottom line, I purchased it with no mechanical issues, Zero (0) miles and only having cosmetic damage from inside the crate so Im passing the great deal I got on to you. I encourage you to come check it out as its near flawless to show or just ride. I like my toys super clean, they come with 3 keys, owners manual and service manual.With the upgrades there would be about $20K in this spectacular sport bike but I'm offering it for much less. If you need help shipping I can help facilitate that with your shipper, payment is your responsibility.
The seller obviously isn't revealing an actual asking price since the auction is still active, but the bidding is up to almost $8,000 at this time. The RC8 may have lagged slightly behind sportbike rivals at the time in terms of outright performance, but not by much, and the humane ergonomics made it a sensible alternative to bikes like Ducati's 1198. KTM doesn't quite have the superbike racing success or sex appeal of an MV or Ducati, but I think we're looking at a future classic and, as the seller indicates, this is one of the nicest, lowest-mileage examples available anywhere.
-tad
Superbike Alternative: Low Mileage 2014 KTM RC8R for Sale
KTM June 18, 2017 posted by

Alternative: 2013 KTM 1190 RC8R

The mighty RC8R was started as an internal pet project wtihin KTM R&D. This was no mere "sporty bike" project. Rather, the RC8 lineup was designed with racing in mind - Superbike competition and more. The culmination of that project was the "R" model RC8 - with top-shelf components and exclusive performance that rivaled the best of what the world had to offer. It was raced in competition with limited success, but paved the way for what is now KTM's MotoGP project. You'd be forgiven if you missed the RC8R in competition; most American buyers seemed to completely miss out on the RC8R in the showrooms too. With only a few hundred sold per year (tops), KTM eventually pulled the plug on this mega street bike. Today, the only SuperSport in the KTM lineup is the RC390.

2013 KTM RC8R for sale on eBay

The backbone of the RC8R is a tubular lattice frame of high-strength chrome-molybdenum steel. This is a page out of the early Bimota handbook, and resembles the handiwork of Ducati frames (except for the color, of course). On to that solid foundation KTM fitted a massive swingarm with adjustable pivot points. Suspension is WP on both ends, completely adjustable, naturally. In fact, adjustability might just be the RC8R's calling card: foot pegs and controls, seat height, and levers are all adjustable to help best adapt the bike to the rider. That is race bike level of detail, and certainly helps the rider control the 173 HP booming out of the 75 degree angle V-twin. Stopping this just-over-400-pound (dry) beast are Brembo radial mounts attached to lightweight, Marchesini aluminium die-cast wheels. All in all, a very formidable package.

From the seller:
2013 KTM 1190 RC8R White/Orange Only 1,400 Miles
Can't be told from new - Full Service History / Climate Controlled Storage
Original Books' Service Manual Keys & Tool Kit
Private Party Sale Title in hand Ready to transfer. No Paypal Game Cash or Bank check Only
Exterior Color:
White/Orange
Engine:
1195 cc
Title Condition:
Clear

The KTM RC8R does not quite have the supermodel good looks of the Ducati Panigale, but that keeps it from being a "me too" type of machine. Poised - as if ready to transform into something else - the KTM looks raw, mean and fast. These are wonderful bikes indeed, and the later year variants (such as this 2013 example) are free from the minor hiccups and teething that plagued the first year models. This is a solid, reliable, and confidence-inspiring mount, sure to make a statement when you arrive. Even sitting still it has a unique - exclusive - quality.

This particular example has only 1,400 miles on the clock; that helps explain why it looks so clean. There will be those that question a bike that has been ridden so few miles, but one man's garage queen is another man's nearly new motorcycle. And since you cannot get an RC8R any longer, wouldn't you rather get the newest one you can? Bidding starts high on this one: $12,995 is the opening ask, with a reserve in place. It may be too soon for these oddball quasi-Ducs to appreciate, as they were only recently discontinued (due to poor sales). In time, I would have to think the collecting world would come to appreciate this bike somewhat differently. Check it out here, as there are plenty of great pics of this steed. Then just back to our Comments section and give us a piece of your mind on this KTM: Is it a current superbike, a flash in the pan, or a future collectable? Good Luck!!

MI

Alternative: 2013 KTM 1190 RC8R




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