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Moto Guzzi June 18, 2017 posted by

Not so fast: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Italy

2006 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Italy

Moto Guzzi is often thought as being a sort of italian Harley Davidson, probably because  both manufacturers have a defining configuration that has long formed the basis of its lineup and neither is really thought of as a sportbike manufacturer.  Moto Guzzi has even used this portrayal in its own marketing, telling would-be owners that a Moto Guzzi is a motorcycle for traditionalists/for people who think the journey is more important that the speed at which they get there.  But back in 2002 Moto Guzzi had just opened a new design center and the company tasked their designers to come up with new designs around existing hardware.  A team of designers led by Giuseppe Ghezzi & Bruni Saturno took up the task and the MGS-01 concept was the result, a V-twin powered sportbike that was unlike anything the company had produced previously or since.

The MGS-01, which stands for Moto Guzzi Sport number 1, was powered by a 1200+cc 8V engine featuring chrome cylinder walls (!!!!), cosworth triple ring racing pistons, nimonic valves and a special lubrication system that sprayed oil under the pistons.  The MGS-01 would also come with an all new six-speed gearbox with reinforced clutch,  an aluminium swingarm, Ohlins for the rear shock, Brembo brakes and OZ aluminium wheels.  All in all, a huge departure from the typical Guzzi offering of the time.

The embedded video below gives you an idea of what this big red beasty looks and sounds like (skip to the 1:50 mark for just the sound).

Sounds like it can't miss, right?  Sadly, no. The MGS-01 had the misfortune of arriving right when parent company Aprilia was going through some serious financial troubles.  It took until 2004 for the first MGS-01 corsa editions to actually roll off the production line and when the Aprilia group was sold to to Piaggo in 2005 the new owners quickly pulled the plug on what they determined to be an unprofitable "halo" model.  Production numbers are under some dispute but most agree no more than 150 were produced, with the final editions going out the factory door as 2006 models.

For anyone who is interested in reading a very good writeup of the entire MGS-01 effort, click here.

As for this particular MGS-01, mileage is 2460 so its barely broken in.  The current seller does not provide any detailed service info in the Ebay auction so we are forced to rely on the pics which there are a good quantity and quality of but ..uh oh...one of the pictures shows a receipt for a repaired valve and some engine work.  The receipt does indicates mileage of 0 at the time so perhaps it was a factory recall but it it is a concern along with why the paint appears to be flaking off the engine case, the fluid color and what appears to be some sort of fluid on the tires.

So should you consider this particular MGS-01?  Well on the negative side of the ledger is the previously mentioned valve service receipt and the fact that the MGS-01 was a one-off model that marked the end of production for 8V Guzzi racing engines which means that service and parts would be an ongoing concern.   I suppose if you are really interested you could contact a dealership about parts availability and also the current seller to inquire about the valve service (or try to contact the owner who had the valve work done).   Location is also an issue unless you are willing to pay for import.

On the positive side of the ledger the M GS-01 is probably the ultimate expression of Guzzi's being used as modern day racers....you can think of it as the ultimate Dr. John Whittner Daytona.  And given its limited production run of 150 units the MGS-01 seems destined to be a rare sportbike that will appreciate in value over time.

As for price, from what I have been able to find OEM price from a MGS-01 was about $37,000 but the few of these we have had on RSBFS have been priced at at least that.  I don't think I can give an estimate on this one due to the service history concerns but I will say that I wouldn't be surprised to see it go for right around the OEM price.

-Marty/Dallaslavowner

Not so fast:  2006 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Italy
Moto Guzzi August 1, 2016 posted by

Italian Unicorn: 2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 Corsa for Sale

Relisted from last November, with a 20% price reduction - Martin

2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 R Side Front

In the early 1990s, Moto Guzzi was trying to revitalize their staid image and appeal to a younger, more sporting audience. Famous Guzzi tuners Ghezzi and Brian were brought in to style the new top-shelf sportbike, and the result was a machine uncharacteristically elegant and modern, considering Guzzi's products of the period. The MGS01 managed to look forwards and backwards at the same time: it was true sportbike that managed to be relatively lightweight while using a highly-developed version of their classic longitudinally-mounted v-twin and shaft drive.

2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 L Side

The bike used a bored-out version of the "high cam" eight-valve engine with Cosworth pistons and a 1225cc displacement, backed by the V11 Sport's compact six-speed gearbox and shaft-drive. It put out a very healthy 121hp and a stump-pulling 83lb-ft of torque. Unfortunately, although it was far lighter than other Guzzis being built at the time, the 420lb dry weight was still pretty portly when compared to its rivals.

2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 Dash

Intended as a track day toy and gentleman's racer, it wasn't light enough or powerful enough to really compete against the Ducatis and Japanese inline-fours on track, and sourcing bodywork and parts should you crash could be a serious headache. It's just a shame that the promised roadbike production never materialized: Guzzis typically take a serious dive in the used market, but I could imagine that this one might have held its value...

From the original eBay listing: 2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 Corsa for Sale (LINK UPDATE FOR RELIST)

One of the most beautiful bikes ever made. Italian art at its best...

Extremely rare 1 of 50 produced only 7 ever imported into the US by Moto Guzzi.

This bike was bought new in 2004 in California by a collector for display only.

Bike is still on the original MSO. I have all the original sales documents, original red Moto Guzzi bike cover. Everything that came with the bike new. I still have the original side of the Moto Guzzi crate.

A very rare opportunity to purchase an extremely rare exotic, will only appreciate. You can purchase to ride or display in your office or wherever. Hard assets like this are much better and safer than the market.

Can be viewed anytime in Las Vegas, Nevada by appointment.

2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 R Side Rear

Not sure I'd take financial advice from someone trying to sell me a motorcycle, and I'm really not sure that using a rare motorcycle as a part of your retirement planning is exactly good advice anyway, but regardless: this is a very special motorcycle, and I certainly wouldn't argue with his claim that it's one of the most beautiful bikes ever made.

The question is: "Is the MGS01 $60,000 80,000 beautiful?" Because that's what the seller is asking for this well-preserved, virtually unused example. Opinions on production numbers vary a bit, but whether it was 50 or 100 or 150, you're very unlikely to see another for sale anytime soon.

2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 R Side

Italian Unicorn: 2004 Moto Guzzi MGS01 Corsa for Sale
Moto Guzzi January 14, 2015 posted by

Guzzi Racers: Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Japan vs Moto Guzzi Daytona in US

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As we have posted before, Moto Guzzi is the oldest European manufacturer in continuous motorcycle production and has over 1000 racing victories including 14 world speed titles.  However most of the Moto Guzzi victories came well over 40 years ago.  Guzzi has made the occasional attempt to recognize and even revisit their racing history and this post is about two of these efforts, a 1993 Guzzi Daytona available in the US and an uber-rare 2004 MGS-01 for sale in Japan.

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1993 Moto Guzzi Daytona for sale on ebay

First is a 1993 Guzzi Daytona located in the states. We have posted a few of these here on RSBFS but for those unfamiliar with the Daytona edition, in the mid 1980's an American named Dr John Wittner decided to try something different and go racing using a Moto Guzzi.  Witnner's Guzzi efforts resulted in wins in both the 1984 and 1985 U.S. Endurance Championship and Wittner eventually went to Italy to work for Moto Guzzi.  One result of his efforts was the Guzzi Daytona edition, which had an updated engine that was in a new spine frame based on Dr. John’s race bike design, including a monoshock under the seat and Brembo four-pot calipers with 300mm dual discs (two-pot/260mm rear) provided stopping power.  The result was a significantly improved ride over other Guzzis of the era, with power available whenever you open the throttle.  A detailed explanation of all the technical changes in the bike can be read here.

While the Daytona was a big move forward for Guzzi, it was still essentially a big Guzzi, more of an homage to Wittner's Guzzi racing success than a pure racer.  As reviewers noted;

The Moto Guzzi Daytona isn't a real race-replica, it is instead more of an homage, a traditionalist’s GT-class machine. It excels everywhere by not doing anything wrong; the suspension offers a good balance of compliance and control. Mid-corner throttle changes have almost no consequence whatsoever on the chassis. Whacking open the throttle while leaned over makes the rear end squat slightly, just like a chain-drive bike which is amazing considering the shaft drive.

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The buyer includes a fair amount of info about the bike, including the following:

  • Single owner since new
  • Everything on the bike is stock including the Stage 2 Moto Guzzi upgrade kit.
  • The original tires were on the bike, but were just replaced out of safety concerns.
  • All of the fluids have been just changed by the owner and a new battery installed.
  • Mileage is listed at a low 7,126 kilometers/4,427 miles

Overall the condition looks to be very good except for some surface rust on the rear rotor which is probably due to climate and what appears to be an aftermarket exhaust.  It is interesting to note that like other US buyers of the Daytona, the buyer wasn't happy with DOT mandated changes and had the dealer convert the headlight to the European specs which included the head light assembly and upper fairing.

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Okay, now usually in these posts this is where I post the "so whats it worth part?"  The Daytona isn't a bad bike in any way, is always popular among people who like good engineering and want something that isn't a torture to ride.   Prices for these seem to vary between 8,000-11,000 USD depending on condition.  These bikes are known for retaining their value so if this one is on your bucket list, this might be the one for you.

But what if you wanted a true Guzzi race machine?  Well there was an actual short-lived effort by Moto Guzzi to produce a true race machine.  Moto Guzzi was acquired by the Aprilia motorcycle company in 1999 (Editors note: along with my beloved Laverda) and Aprilia was at this time working hard on large displacement bikes including their RSV Mille.  It was during this period that Moto Guzzi produced the uber-rare and non-street going MGS-01 pictured here.

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2004 Moto Guzzi MGS-01 for sale in Japan on goobike

The MGS-01 (Moto Guzzi Sport model number one) was intended to be the future of Moto Guzzi. It was fast, beautiful, exclusive, expensive, basically you typical piece of Italian exotica. A detailed explanation of the MGS-01 can be read here but to suffice to say that when bike was introduced it caused a sensation.  Sadly, only 150 of the MGS-01 managed to make it out the door before new owners of Aprilia the Piaggio group shut down production in 2005 to focus on more profitable ventures.  Efforts continue to keep the idea alive via the Millepercento group but those aren't official Guzzi products.

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This particular MGS-01 is located in Japan and there is almost no info provided about the bike other than a few pictures.   Perhaps a RSBFS reader located in Japan could get more info for us.  Asking price of 42,000 USD is actually in line with the few that have been posted on RSBFS before. With only 150 of these being built and some undoubtedly being used as true race bikes, the chances of acquiring one of these will probably only decline going forward so serious collectors should take note.

In conclusion, while from a styling standpoint its hard to believe only 11 years separated the 1993 Daytona and the 1994 MGS-01, they are both modern motorcycles and each one has their own type of appeal.  I suppose the Daytona would be easier to own and enjoy while the MGS-01 is certainly a true piece of unobtanium.  Perhaps some lucky Moto Guzzi fan will be able to acquire them both and enjoy the Daytona as a regular ride and the MGS-01 as living room art.

-Marty

Guzzi Racers:  Moto Guzzi MGS-01 in Japan vs Moto Guzzi Daytona in US
Moto Guzzi November 15, 2012 posted by

Grab A Guzzi And A Fosters: 2010 Moto Guzzi MGS01 Corsa

 

I'll take it, let me get my check book.  Oh, how I wish I was in Australia and could write a check for a cool $45,000 (that is just the starting bid) for this Guzzi Corsa.  Hint, hint RSBFS management.  By the way, the last MGSO1 we listed here had an asking price of $62,000.  And that was without a vacation to Australia!

In my humble opinion, one of the best looking bikes out there, period.  The design is a nice blend of classic and modern lines.

The story: 

This bike was built new for me by the factory and received in Australia in late July 2010. It has been pre-delivered and run but has never been ridden. The original crate, race stand and all original books available with the bike. At the time I owned a shop selling Moto Guzzi's and this was the centre piece display. I am now rationalizing a number of bikes and have decided to sell the MGS01.

All business here.  Why the heck did they not make a street version of this sucker?

I imagine a lovely sound emanates from that muffler.

The seller provided a nice history on the MGSO1 Corsa:

In early 2002, with the renovation of Moto Guzzi world-wide already underway, Moto Guzzi began to develop a new range of modern, agile, sport motorcycles that would embody all the rich racing history and spirit of the famous brand from Mandello del Lario. 

The creative team of esteemed motorcycle designers Ghezzi and Brian, with the full backing of Moto Guzzi brought the initial concepts from the Moto Guzzi “Style Laboratory” to life. 
 
Unleashed creativity breeds the MGS-01 Corsa, a Moto Guzzi with the ultimate sporting temperament. With a two-year goal from concept to the street, the designers decided to work with the existing 4 valve V-twin power plant developed for the Daytona and Centauro. 

The new Corsa racing engine has chrome cylinder walls, Cosworth triple ring racing pistons, and (31 mm exhaust, 36 mm intake) nymonic valves.  A special lubrication system that sprays oil under the pistons for greater reduction of friction was incorporated.  

The choice for the transmission was the current V11’s road-tested six-speed gearbox and shaft drive.  The use of a new sintering double disc hydraulic drive clutch was necessary to handle the massive power output of the new engine. 

To keep the overall weight down, lightweight components like the new 19.5” (495 mm) aluminum box section swing arm and rising rate linkages were created.  

The entire one-piece carbon fiber body design can be removed quickly and easily for ease of maintenance.  Ohlins suspension and a rigid rectangular single spar steel frame gives the MGS-01 its impressive agility. 

In keeping with the goal of being lightweight and agile, the standard gearbox was redesigned and turned into a structural component to keep the wheelbase to 56” (1423 mm) maximum. 

With the short wheelbase, perfect weight distribution between both wheels and weighting in at less than 423 lbs (192 kg), the MGS-01’s overall stunning aerodynamic design ensures perfect agility and performance on and off the race track. 

Lets face it, the average enthusiast isn't going half way around the world to buy a motorcycle.  Having said that, a Moto Guzzi collector with a hole in his collection and a healthy bank account  just might.  You won't find one at your local dealer; unless that dealer is in Adelaide, South Australia of course.

Check out the auction here.

Ian

Moto Guzzi April 4, 2012 posted by

On American Soil: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS 01 Corsa

On American Soil: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS 01 Corsa

Update 4.4.2012: Back on eBay after originally being listed in January. Now $42000 buy-it-now. Links updated. -dc

I remember coming across this photo back in 2006 and thinking to myself, "Wow! Moto Guzzi has turned the corner." I thought this bike would be the beginning of a series of more modern Guzzi's. I guess I was wrong and I don't believe the rumored street going version of this bike was ever produced. That takes nothing away from the MGS 01 Corsa though.

It's back! This is actually this bikes third appearance on RSBFS. Back in February I posted this bike while it was for sale in New Zealand and Jay had even written it up before me. Well, it has made the trip here to the States and is back for sale. Does it have some sort of curse?

There is no arguing this is a rare bike but the BIN price is eye popping: $62,500! The seller states that 50 were produced back in 2006. I can't confirm that number but it looks like it has been produced on a yearly basis ever since. The bike still appears on Moto Guzzi's Italian website. The MSRP is roughly $37,000. Even with hiring someone to translate for you and shipping fee's I'd think you'd come in under that BIN price. Having said that, maybe this bike is of higher spec than the bike off the showroom floor. Then of course there is the frustration factor of trying to import a bike on your own.

It looks damn good from any angle.

There are plenty of video clips of the Corsa out there but I thought this one was cool because you get to see it without the bodywork. Very compact.

If you aren't feeling brave enough to import one yourself, make the seller an offer as he as added that option.

Take a look here.

Ian

Moto Guzzi February 21, 2011 posted by

Guzzi Exotica: 2006 Moto Guzzi MGS01 CORSA

Guzzi Exotica:  2006 Moto Guzzi MGS01 CORSA

If it looks this good standing still, it must be a sight to see and hear in motion.  Can anything really be bad with word "Corsa" in the title?  This is as exotic as they get straight from the Moto Guzzi factory to date.  Trying to find accurate info on the MGS-1 is confusing to say the least so Guzzi enthusiasts please correct me in the comments if need be.  It looks like the bike debuted in 2004.  I keep seeing production numbers of 50 bikes.  I do not know if that is a yearly total or an overall total.   I can't even determine if any of the bikes were "officially" imported to North America.  It also looked like Moto Guzzi had plans for a street version that never materialized.

It might date from 2004 but it doesn't look dated to me.   Slap some light and turn signals on it and I bet you'd sell a few.  I read several reviews of the bike and for the most part there was nothing but positive comments about it.  This review on MCNEWS.COM was one of the more interesting ones, plus it has some good pictures for those of us that loose interest quickly.  It  covers what technical enhancements were made to the bike that made it drool worthy.

Just a bit from the auction:

THIS BIKE HAS HAD VERY LITTLE USE AND IS IN IMACULATE CONDITION, VERY RARE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THIS VERY COLLECTABLE FACTORY BUILT RACE BIKE, ONE OF ONLY 50 IN THE WORLD.

From the side it looks like such a wide bike but from this photo it looks pretty darn thin.

This particular MGS01 has an accent, it is located in New Zealand.  I'm sure that might scare off a few bidders but I'd assume a  Guzzi collector would jump at the chance to own one of these rare bikes.  The bidding is starting at $25,000.  It looks like they sold for close to $50,000 originally.  .  If that starting price sounds high, it is actually quite a drop from the starting bid price on the same a bike from a year ago.  Check out the post Jay did on the bike last year:  unless of course there are two MGS01's in Christchurch with number four plastered on them.

They sound as good as they look.

IK

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